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Old October 1 2013, 03:30 AM   #301
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No he didn't.
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Old October 1 2013, 03:32 AM   #302
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Dang...Tuvix again?

We need a Tuvix emoticon for this board.
Groundhogday.

"Maybe God has just been around along time and he knows everything?"

Seriously, if you know how to roll with it, time loops can be very enjoyable.
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Old October 1 2013, 03:33 AM   #303
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Old October 1 2013, 03:44 AM   #304
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On Tuvix well, I will just leave this right here-from Janeway herself.

I can't begin to understand what your people have gone through. They may have found a way to ignore the moral implications of what you're doing. But I have no such luxury. I don't have the freedom to kill you to save another. My culture finds that to be a reprehensible and entirely unacceptable act.
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Old October 1 2013, 03:50 AM   #305
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So you all wanted Tuvok and Neelix to leave the show and be replaced by extremely creepy Tuvix. Five seasons of smarmy creepy ass Tuvix. With, of course, the obligatory pon farr episode just to ramp up the smarmy creepiness even further.
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Old October 1 2013, 03:50 AM   #306
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It was a guilt trip.

Besides he said that he forgave them for doing the wrong thing.

What sort of crazy person forgives you doing the right thing?

If you're doing the right thing, you don't have to be forgiven.
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Old October 1 2013, 03:56 AM   #307
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So you all wanted Tuvok and Neelix to leave the show and be replaced by extremely creepy Tuvix. Five seasons of smarmy creepy ass Tuvix. With, of course, the obligatory pon farr episode just to ramp up the smarmy creepiness even further.
They could have worked around it.

Russ and Ethan could have been used as slightly different (Clones, holograms, robots, temporal refugees, mirror universe refugees.) versions of Neelix and Tuvok or even completely different characters under a shit load of completely different latex.
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Old October 1 2013, 04:03 AM   #308
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I can make an argument for Tuvix, but it's the wrong one. There are two murders that need righted.

Tuvix loses.
Who murdered Neelix and Tuvok again? An accident happened. Tragic as that may be, no one should be at fault for that. The only murder in that episode was done by Janeway. There is no moral justification to take an innocent person's life against his will. Janeway decided she liked Tuvok(and maybe Neelix) more and that was the only reason, otherwise Kes's crying wouldn't have been what made her make the choice. You can argue Tuvix was a coward for not falling on his sword, but last I checked cowardice isn't a capital crime.

Gone is the Janeway that was appalled at the suggestion of executing Suder for murder or that wouldn't even kill a Viidian who stole Neelix's lungs and left him for dead.
The main reason so many folks complain over Tuvix is because they just hated Tuvok and Neelix to start with and wanted them gone.

If this was TOS and it was Spock and McCoy fused together, with the possibility of losing both characters, no one would mind getting them back.
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Old October 1 2013, 04:08 AM   #309
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Search for fricking Spock.
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Old October 1 2013, 04:10 AM   #310
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Exactly, no one cared they killed off David and more or less ditched Saavik as long as it meant getting Spock back.
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Old October 1 2013, 04:13 AM   #311
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"Klingon bastards killed my Son" is one of the best lines in Trek and totally worth the trade off, if you continue to account for the ramifications come home to roost in the trial from The Unknown Country.
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Old October 1 2013, 04:19 AM   #312
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There was no trade off, not a single person in the viewing audience was attached to David.

Anwar I must ask though.. people hated Tuvok?
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Old October 1 2013, 04:21 AM   #313
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I hate Tuvok? That's a new one. I guess when you go around putting words in other people's mouths, things like accuracy are small, especially when you can just smear them.
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Old October 1 2013, 04:25 AM   #314
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I was more upset about Miramanee's baby with Kirk than I was about David!

Now I feel bad.
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Old October 1 2013, 04:33 AM   #315
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So is NuKirk peak human, or post human and what will that mean for NuDavid if Khan's DNA went straight to Daddy's sack to renovate his cherries into a Superman factory?
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