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Old August 15 2013, 10:27 AM   #31
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Of course following an attack on one if it's key planets the UFP might adopt a more agrressive stance when it comes to it's neighbours. So instead of a passive reaction to Cardassia's annexation of Bajor it might intervene so Bajor never falls under Cardassian occupation. It's an alternate history you can make it what ever you want.
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Old August 15 2013, 05:34 PM   #32
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Aside from the Caretaker grabbing ships from the Badlands still I do not see much of Voyager existing in the NuTrek. So much has already changes in the TOS era that by the time we get to the TNG/DS9/STV time I think all ships and political affiliations will be unrecognizable.
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Old August 15 2013, 10:53 PM   #33
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Of course Janeway will be there, Admiral or not, because she's a fixed point in time.
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Old August 15 2013, 11:12 PM   #34
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In the alternate timeline, she's running a puppy mill back home in Indiana.
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Old August 16 2013, 11:23 AM   #35
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Of course Janeway will be there, Admiral or not, because she's a fixed point in time.
Where...
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Old August 16 2013, 11:25 AM   #36
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Okay, fuck it, she's a fixed point in my heart.
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Old August 16 2013, 11:39 AM   #37
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And hey, she came back in TET's timeline. Death aint permanent in Trek. Just ask young Kirk and old Spock.
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Old August 16 2013, 11:43 AM   #38
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Look, Captain Braxton prevented Spock and Nero from travelling through time. Just like he prevented Admiral Janeway from helping Voyager to return home prematurely.

IF you introduce an institution like the time police, you gotta stick to the rules.
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Old August 16 2013, 11:49 AM   #39
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The time police are corrupt. Rogue agents and people with twisted views on canon pay them off.
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Old August 16 2013, 06:28 PM   #40
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#1) Andorians would join the Federation after seeing the destruction of Vulcan and how Starfleet gave up their lives to defend the planet.
A small nitpick, but the only member of Starfleet who died defending Vulcan (unsuccessfully) was Olsen.

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Old August 16 2013, 06:48 PM   #41
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What about all those starfleet ships Nero destroyed? Didn't they have starfleet crews?
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Old August 17 2013, 05:19 PM   #42
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Yes the ships possessed Starfleet crewmembers, however those crews were responding to what they believed to be a natural event (seismic activity), they went to Vulcan to provide aid and assist in evacuations.

They did not travel to Vulcan to defend it's people. Olsen died defending Vulcan after the situation was better understood.

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Old August 17 2013, 07:31 PM   #43
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#1) Andorians would join the Federation after seeing the destruction of Vulcan and how Starfleet gave up their lives to defend the planet.
A small nitpick, but the only member of Starfleet who died defending Vulcan (unsuccessfully) was Olsen.

Besides, the Andorians joined the federation decades before the events of the movie. You know, that whole "founding members" thing?
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Old August 17 2013, 08:36 PM   #44
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Since I don't accept the Abramsverse as being any more valid than 5th-rate fanfiction, it has absolutely no effect whatsoever on how I see Voyager, think about the characters, or perceive the truly excellent Voyager fanfics I follow (our own Alpha Flyer has been writing a wonderful series about Captain Tom Paris (obviously post-Endgame).

And Nero was the 5th Roman Emperor. Having that name for a Romulan character is ridiculous in any universe, unless you want to postulate that the Romulans made contact with 1st-century Rome and liked the name so much that they borrowed it.
The first Romulan we know by name is Decius in Balance of Terror. Also the name of a Roman Emperor.

Spock is a Dutch name.

Nerys is Welsh

Dax is French

Odo was a French Pope
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Old August 17 2013, 08:54 PM   #45
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Maybe there's a way to work Patrick Stewart into the JJVerse, as a Romulan named Sejanus.
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