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Old August 14 2013, 07:44 PM   #16
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Re: The least disliked episode of DS9 - Final Round

Because it is? I have no idea who I'm gonna vote for after this.
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Old August 14 2013, 07:45 PM   #17
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Re: The least disliked episode of DS9 - Final Round

Another vote for Emissary - never did much for me, neither as a pilot to a TV-series, nor as an introduction to one of the main series arcs and the main characters. I'm happy DS9 got so good despite this pilot episode. *g*

Emissary - 2
The Wire - 2
Necessary Evil - 1
The Die is Cast - 0
Improbable Cause - 0
The Visitor - 0
Return to Grace - 2
In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
By Inferno's Light - 0
In the Pale Moonlight - 0
Sacrifice of Angels - 0
What You Leave Behind - 0
Tacking into the Wind - 0[/QUOTE]
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Old August 14 2013, 09:06 PM   #18
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Re: The least disliked episode of DS9 - Final Round

Return to Grace is easily the weakest episode here for me. It's merely good, whilst everything else is very good or excellent.

Emissary - 2
The Wire - 2
Necessary Evil - 1
The Die is Cast - 0
Improbable Cause - 0
The Visitor - 0
Return to Grace - 3
In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
By Inferno's Light - 0
In the Pale Moonlight - 0
Sacrifice of Angels - 0
What You Leave Behind - 0
Tacking into the Wind - 0
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Old August 14 2013, 09:12 PM   #19
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Re: The least disliked episode of DS9 - Final Round

Return to Grace: great concept, and great performances. However, I felt that the dialogue went to far with Dukat, making him seem both unimaginative and incompetent. That's unrealisitc. Effectively, Kira set up the Cardassian resistance.

Emissary - 2
The Wire - 2
Necessary Evil - 1
The Die is Cast - 0
Improbable Cause - 0
The Visitor - 0
Return to Grace - 4
In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
By Inferno's Light - 0
In the Pale Moonlight - 0
Sacrifice of Angels - 0
What You Leave Behind - 0
Tacking into the Wind - 0
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Old August 14 2013, 09:16 PM   #20
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Re: The least disliked episode of DS9 - Final Round

And we're back to zero - Return to Grace is gone. Now I'm going to have to start pulling teeth. I think Emissary is a brilliant opener to the series, and is also one of the best Trek pilots. It's just lesser than the rest. If you want an actual reason, then Bashir is a bit of a jerk.

Emissary - 1
The Wire - 0
Necessary Evil - 0
The Die is Cast - 0
Improbable Cause - 0
The Visitor - 0
In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
By Inferno's Light - 0
In the Pale Moonlight - 0
Sacrifice of Angels - 0
What You Leave Behind - 0
Tacking into the Wind - 0
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Old August 14 2013, 09:20 PM   #21
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Re: The least disliked episode of DS9 - Final Round

I think I'm ready to vote for Emissary now. I loved it on first viewing and still do, I think it is the best pilot of all the series'. But the other episodes are excellent and in the first episode, we're obviously still getting to know the characters, some of whom are not initially all that well drawn out. I also thought the Prophet scenes were just a little overlong.

Emissary - 2
The Wire - 0
Necessary Evil - 0
The Die is Cast - 0
Improbable Cause - 0
The Visitor - 0
In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
By Inferno's Light - 0
In the Pale Moonlight - 0
Sacrifice of Angels - 0
What You Leave Behind - 0
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Old August 14 2013, 09:22 PM   #22
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Re: The least disliked episode of DS9 - Final Round

Necessary Evil: Like Emissary, the characters weren't well developed at this point. however, I found Odo particularly problematic.

Emissary - 2
The Wire - 0
Necessary Evil - 1
The Die is Cast - 0
Improbable Cause - 0
The Visitor - 0
In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
By Inferno's Light - 0
In the Pale Moonlight - 0
Sacrifice of Angels - 0
What You Leave Behind - 0
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Old August 14 2013, 09:40 PM   #23
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Re: The least disliked episode of DS9 - Final Round

"Emissary" as I voted for it last time and it's still in.

Emissary - 3
The Wire - 0
Necessary Evil - 1
The Die is Cast - 0
Improbable Cause - 0
The Visitor - 0
In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
By Inferno's Light - 0
In the Pale Moonlight - 0
Sacrifice of Angels - 0
What You Leave Behind - 0
Tacking into the Wind - 0
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Old August 14 2013, 09:41 PM   #24
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Necessary Evil again. Hopefully people wise up to this "getting rid of Emissary" nonsense.

Emissary - 3
The Wire - 0
Necessary Evil - 2
The Die is Cast - 0
Improbable Cause - 0
The Visitor - 0
In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
By Inferno's Light - 0
In the Pale Moonlight - 0
Sacrifice of Angels - 0
What You Leave Behind - 0
Tacking into the Wind - 0
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Old August 14 2013, 09:56 PM   #25
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Re: The least disliked episode of DS9 - Final Round

^
What he said. Necessary Evil. Good episode, but the characters are kinda two dimensional.

Emissary - 3
The Wire - 0
Necessary Evil - 3
The Die is Cast - 0
Improbable Cause - 0
The Visitor - 0
In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
By Inferno's Light - 0
In the Pale Moonlight - 0
Sacrifice of Angels - 0
What You Leave Behind - 0
Tacking into the Wind - 0
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Old August 14 2013, 10:02 PM   #26
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I'm in shock that "Necessary Evil" is on the chopping block so soon. I'll have to go with "Emissary". It is without doubt the best of the Star Trek pilots and sets up the show's characters, premise, and storylines with surprising skill. The episode is even more enjoyable upon rewatch, after experiencing the entire show. You can see the beginnings of the beautiful character arcs and relationships that will define the series. However, it does have some strange line delivery on the part of Avery Brooks and some of the other characters' makeup and performances seem to be in need of refinement. It's also a shame that the producers felt the need to insert that ugly exposition crawl at the beginning of the episode.
Sorry "Emissary". I really do love you . This is really tough!

Emissary - 4
The Wire - 0
Necessary Evil - 3
The Die is Cast - 0
Improbable Cause - 0
The Visitor - 0
In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
By Inferno's Light - 0
In the Pale Moonlight - 0
Sacrifice of Angels - 0
What You Leave Behind - 0
Tacking into the Wind - 0

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Old August 14 2013, 10:12 PM   #27
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Scores are back to zero, and it's getting even tougher now. All are strong episodes. But in this round it has to be Necessary Evil. It's a great episode, better than "Emissary" but not as good as the rest.

The Wire - 0
Necessary Evil - 1
The Die is Cast - 0
Improbable Cause - 0
The Visitor - 0
In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
By Inferno's Light - 0
In the Pale Moonlight - 0
Sacrifice of Angels - 0
What You Leave Behind - 0
Tacking into the Wind - 0
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Old August 14 2013, 10:13 PM   #28
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Re: The least disliked episode of DS9 - Final Round

Necessary Evil: my opinion hasn't changed in the last hour.

The Wire - 0
Necessary Evil - 2
The Die is Cast - 0
Improbable Cause - 0
The Visitor - 0
In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
By Inferno's Light - 0
In the Pale Moonlight - 0
Sacrifice of Angels - 0
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Old August 14 2013, 10:31 PM   #29
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Haha. I love Necessary Evil, so I'm voting for The Wire, which I also love.

The Wire - 1
Necessary Evil - 2
The Die is Cast - 0
Improbable Cause - 0
The Visitor - 0
In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
By Inferno's Light - 0
In the Pale Moonlight - 0
Sacrifice of Angels - 0
What You Leave Behind - 0
Tacking into the Wind - 0
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Old August 14 2013, 10:31 PM   #30
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Necessary Evil: my opinion hasn't changed in the last hour.
What he said. I'm being original today. For what it's worth, if NE had been eliminated, I'd probably be voting for Emissary right now.

The Wire - 1
Necessary Evil - 3
The Die is Cast - 0
Improbable Cause - 0
The Visitor - 0
In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
By Inferno's Light - 0
In the Pale Moonlight - 0
Sacrifice of Angels - 0
What You Leave Behind - 0
Tacking into the Wind - 0
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