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Old August 21 2013, 02:46 AM   #16
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Re: Was [Spoiler] Justified?

Sad but necessary imo. Pike really got the shaft in this universe but perhaps it won't be in vain if Kirk grows the hell up now, which is what I suspect the motivation for offing Pike.

Btw, perhaps is was mentioned above and I missed it but Pike didn't get killed in the other universe, unless you were referencing some novel or something. He ended up on Talos living a life of illusion.

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Old August 21 2013, 09:08 AM   #17
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And it also lets Kirk be the one in the big fight with Khan instead of Spock. What is the logic in having the hero of the piece be in a coma during the climactic fight?
Because it simply doesn't work. Even in Space Seed, Khan should've squished Kirk like a bug.

And if they had went that route, many of the people who dislike the film would've went on and on about how Khan should've squished Kirk like a bug.
Then you have Spock come in and save the day. Two against a super one.
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Old August 21 2013, 09:16 PM   #18
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Re: Was [Spoiler] Justified?

I felt real emotion when Pike died, unlike the later scene, partly because I was laughing so hard and partly because they had already alluded to the reset button. They needed to cull him to move the plot and characters forward. Pike's death worked IMO.
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Old August 22 2013, 11:15 PM   #19
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Re: Was [Spoiler] Justified?

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I felt real emotion when Pike died, unlike the later scene, partly because I was laughing so hard and partly because they had already alluded to the reset button. They needed to cull him to move the plot and characters forward. Pike's death worked IMO.
Just wished he could have made it to the 3rd movie loved to see him sacrifice himself..... I thought it worked better in Man Of Steel superman lost his foster father and his real father in that movie but I thought the Kevin Costner scene was emotional when he saved his dog and would not let Clark save him to stop him revealing his gifts. I'd loved to seen pike save kirk and kirk realise that he was right all the time !!!
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Old August 24 2013, 08:51 PM   #20
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Re: Was [Spoiler] Justified?

Yeah, my initial feeling was that Pike would assume command of Enterprise and he'd die at the hands of Khan at the midpoint of the film. (Some of the plotting seems to hint that this was an option at one point.)
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