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Old August 15 2013, 08:35 PM   #61
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Re: The STAR TREK Movies, As Ranked By STAR TREK Con-Goers

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Apparently this is their list of best ST films


1. The Wrath of Khan
2. First Contact
3. The Undiscovered Country
4. The Voyage Home
5. The Search for Spock
6. Star Trek (2009)
7. Galaxy Quest (!!!)
8. Generations
9. The Motion Picture
10. Nemesis
11. Insurrection
12. The Final Frontier
13. Into Darkness

In my opinion nr.6 Star Trek (2009) should be nr.12

Not a JJ hater, this man makes the best movies, except for SW, sorry mean ST movies.
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Old August 15 2013, 08:35 PM   #62
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Many will harp on homages and inconsistencies anyways. The Wrath of Khan wasn't exactly welcomed with open arms if fanzines of the time are to be believed.

I'd like to see a breakdown of the vote. But I surmise that this was entirely fabricated by someone with an ax to grind.
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Old August 15 2013, 08:48 PM   #63
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Many will harp on homages and inconsistencies anyways. The Wrath of Khan wasn't exactly welcomed with open arms if fanzines of the time are to be believed.

I'd like to see a breakdown of the vote. But I surmise that this was entirely fabricated by someone with an ax to grind.
Or to gin up controversy.

True story. Not long ago, a reporter contacted me regarding an article he was working on about how all us old-school Trekkies hate the new movies. To his surprise and disappointment, I refused to play along. I spent over thirty minutes on the phone to this guy, patiently explaining that his premise was incorrect, that only a vocal minority of purists objected to the Abrams films, but this wasn't what he wanted to hear. (He told me upfront that his editor had already dictated the slant of the article.)

When I wouldn't give him the sound-byte he wanted, he asked me to point him toward another Trek author who would go along with the idea that all true Trekkies were universally opposed to the movies. Again, I declined.

Sure enough, when the article saw print, guess what the gist of it was?

So, yeah, I'm justly skeptical of these kind of headlines.
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Old August 15 2013, 09:02 PM   #64
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Sure enough, when the article saw print, guess what the gist of it was?

So, yeah, I'm justly skeptical of these kind of headlines.
He was probably threatened with having to write the lonelyhearts column if he didn't deliver the story they wanted.
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Old August 15 2013, 09:16 PM   #65
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I enjoy Star Trek I, II, III, IV & VI equally.
Well, that's just cheating. You have to rank them so we can judge your rankings.


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I surmise that this was entirely fabricated by someone with an ax to grind.
It's already got out that Feraci was "coaching" the audience.


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I refused to play along.
And, apparently, if you want to be in a documentary about Star Trek fans, you have to agree to be extra weird for the cameras.
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Old August 15 2013, 09:29 PM   #66
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I surmise that this was entirely fabricated by someone with an ax to grind.
It's already got out that Feraci was "coaching" the audience.
Color me surprised.
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Old August 15 2013, 10:40 PM   #67
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Greg Cox wrote: View Post
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Many will harp on homages and inconsistencies anyways. The Wrath of Khan wasn't exactly welcomed with open arms if fanzines of the time are to be believed.

I'd like to see a breakdown of the vote. But I surmise that this was entirely fabricated by someone with an ax to grind.
Or to gin up controversy.

True story. Not long ago, a reporter contacted me regarding an article he was working on about how all us old-school Trekkies hate the new movies. To his surprise and disappointment, I refused to play along. I spent over thirty minutes on the phone to this guy, patiently explaining that his premise was incorrect, that only a vocal minority of purists objected to the Abrams films, but this wasn't what he wanted to hear. (He told me upfront that his editor had already dictated the slant of the article.)

When I wouldn't give him the sound-byte he wanted, he asked me to point him toward another Trek author who would go along with the idea that all true Trekkies were universally opposed to the movies. Again, I declined.

Sure enough, when the article saw print, guess what the gist of it was?

So, yeah, I'm justly skeptical of these kind of headlines.
This is really a shame. I know in the grand scheme of things, an article about Star Trek movies is of zero significance, but this tabloid, "If you can't find a source, make one up" mentality is becoming more and more mainstream.

It's common practice now--especially with online "journalism"--to make the facts match the article and not make the article match the facts.
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Old August 16 2013, 07:25 AM   #68
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It was a poll of one hundred fans at a convention and they included Galaxy Quest. Of course, being somewhat embarrasing it's been spammed across the internet by sites like Trekweb.com.
True, but it was a vote by only about 400 that got Pluto axed as a planet.

What the poll really shows is something that has been said before: what happens in Vegas REALLY should stay there.
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Old August 16 2013, 07:36 AM   #69
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Many will harp on homages and inconsistencies anyways. The Wrath of Khan wasn't exactly welcomed with open arms if fanzines of the time are to be believed.

I'd like to see a breakdown of the vote. But I surmise that this was entirely fabricated by someone with an ax to grind.
Or to gin up controversy.

True story. Not long ago, a reporter contacted me regarding an article he was working on about how all us old-school Trekkies hate the new movies. To his surprise and disappointment, I refused to play along. I spent over thirty minutes on the phone to this guy, patiently explaining that his premise was incorrect, that only a vocal minority of purists objected to the Abrams films, but this wasn't what he wanted to hear. (He told me upfront that his editor had already dictated the slant of the article.)

When I wouldn't give him the sound-byte he wanted, he asked me to point him toward another Trek author who would go along with the idea that all true Trekkies were universally opposed to the movies. Again, I declined.

Sure enough, when the article saw print, guess what the gist of it was?

So, yeah, I'm justly skeptical of these kind of headlines.
This is exactly why I don't give a crap what anyone else thinks. All that matters is what I think.
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Old August 16 2013, 07:41 AM   #70
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It was a poll of one hundred fans at a convention and they included Galaxy Quest. Of course, being somewhat embarrasing it's been spammed across the internet by sites like Trekweb.com.
True, but it was a vote by only about 400 that got Pluto axed as a planet.
If I'm not mistaken, total National and Individual membership in the IAU numbers just over 450. That's a rather more exclusive club than "self-professed hardcore Trekkies who attend VegasCon every August".
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Old August 16 2013, 11:18 AM   #71
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So this week we found out that people at cons dislike Star Trek Into Darkness and sexually harass other people. It's like Sodom and Gomorrah out there!

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It was a poll of one hundred fans at a convention and they included Galaxy Quest. Of course, being somewhat embarrasing it's been spammed across the internet by sites like Trekweb.com.
Let's face it, had they voted it #1, you wouldn't say that. Instead you'd probably say how this shows that the fanbase loves it.
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Old August 16 2013, 11:58 AM   #72
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I don't know what you're talking about


Also: Sexual harassment at conventions??
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Old August 16 2013, 12:30 PM   #73
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My current list but the bottom 4 could be in any order really. Into Darkness might change when I get to see it again on blu-ray.

1. The Wrath of Khan
2. The Undiscovered Country
3. First Contact
4. The Voyage Home
5. The Search for Spock
6. Into Darkness
7. Star Trek (2009)
8. The Motion Picture
9. Nemesis
10. Insurrection
11. Generations
12. The Final Frontier
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Old August 16 2013, 02:12 PM   #74
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My current rankings:

1. The Voyage Home
2. The Wrath of Khan
3. First Contact
4. Into Darkness
5. The Undiscovered Country
6. Star Trek (2009)
7. The Search for Spock
8. Nemesis
9. Generations
10. The Motion Picture
11. The Final Frontier
12. Insurrection
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Old August 16 2013, 02:25 PM   #75
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Rating STiD so low reeks of that "get off my lawn" mentality as it relates to having Khan in this movie, and probably the immensely false perception that this is somehow a rip off of TWOK when approximately 5-8 minutes of this two hour film really focuses on anything from TWOK.
The whole 3rd act is a trainwreck regardless of whether the movie is 'ripping off' another or not.

To suggest that the sole reason people dislike this movie is the Khan angle is disingenious at best and insulting at worst.
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