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Old October 1 2013, 04:09 AM   #796
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I haven't, no. There was something about her eccentricities and anxiety that reminded me of myself when I suffered when I was younger. Of course, there was the evil side, too, but I still found her neuroses endearing just like how I found Mike's exasperation and no BS lifestyle awesome even though the dude was a stone cold killer.
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Old October 1 2013, 04:26 AM   #797
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Old October 1 2013, 05:38 AM   #798
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Old October 1 2013, 06:03 AM   #799
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Have you ever heard her real voice/accent? Lydia was a horrendous, awful person. Reprehensible. Laura Fraser though? Stunning.
Doesn't Ms. Fraser hail from Scotland? If she sounds anything like Ewan McGregor I don't doubt that her voice is intoxicating in its sex appeal.

Lydia, however, was fucking annoying with her soy milk chamomile tea and her Stevia. I'm glad it was her downfall. Enjoy that tea, babe.

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Old October 1 2013, 06:53 AM   #800
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I loathed Lydia, everything she did got under my skin, if I find a pictue of that look on her face i will have a new avatar
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Old October 1 2013, 08:39 AM   #801
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I'm pretty sure Walt wasn't bleeding nearly enough to die from that ricochet, and Jesse seemingly went barreling down the road straight into a swarm of cops. I'm not entirely sure what that imaginary epilogue looks like, but it is nice to be able to just end it there (at the TV ending) and say Jesse got away and found a decent life for himself out there somewhere, and that Walt finally got to die on his terms with his original goal accomplished.
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Old October 1 2013, 08:47 AM   #802
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The one thing I find weird about Jesse driving off is that I wonder if the Nazis ever actually destroyed his confession tape, or if they were simply just watching it. There wasn't any indication that they broke it, so when the cops raid the place, there is a chance that they might see the tape and then all of a sudden Jesse is in deep shit. That's not exactly a happy ending for him as he's now gotta be on the run. Except this time he doesn't have Saul or any money to help him get to Alaska. All he really has is a lot of torment. His escape certainly must have felt good in the short term, but he is still going to have a lot of long term grief over it.
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Old October 1 2013, 12:12 PM   #803
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The cops could just as well assume Jesse's buried somewhere. I don't think it's likely the Nazis destroyed much evidence, considering they had a meth lab running in the barn next door--kind of hard to deny any knowledge of that, so why get rid of anything else?
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Old October 1 2013, 01:44 PM   #804
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Great series with a satisfying ending, I applaud the creators, writers actors and everyone involved with such an awesome show.

You have to love a writer that goes back to fix a continuity error on something 95% of us would have never caught or really cared about if we did catch it.
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Old October 1 2013, 03:21 PM   #805
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It looked to me like that bullet was in one of Walt's vital organs, and when the cops were standing over him at the end they were reacting like they would to a corpse, not a wanted criminal.

As for Jesse, whether he gets away depends on whether anybody in the world has any reason to think he's alive. If the cops do find a confession tape they'll assume the Nazis murdered him. Remember, the last time anybody currently alive saw Jesse it was Marie, as he went off with Hank to the place he got killed, and none of his friends have seen him since.

We also don't know what the time delay was between Jesse speeding off and the cops showing up.
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Old October 1 2013, 03:25 PM   #806
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It's pretty obvious that Walt is dead by the end. This speculation that he wasn't is kind of silly. Thematically, emotionally, and storytelling-wise for Walt to still be alive just kills the momentum of the entire episode.

As for Jesse, there was a great BuzzFeed article (ugh, I can't believe I just said that) about how for most of the series, anytime he'd be in a car with someone (Walt, Mike, Hank) he was never in control, never free... the point of his last scene isn't that he's going to have some easy carefree life, the point is that at last he *is* free. And that's why we got that crazy happy laugh from him. Vince Gilligan noted that Jesse's life wasn't going to instantly be cupcakes and roses, but pointed out two things:

1) Jesse's arc had the opposite trajectory of Walt's, and that the writers all felt that he had earned a modicum of a happy ending after everything he'd been through.

2) Gilligan himself likes to believe Jesse "got away" and was able to start over, but obviously intends for each of us to come to our own conclusions about it.
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Old October 1 2013, 03:38 PM   #807
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Great ending. It wasn't the best episode of the show, and nothing truly unexpected happened, but that worked in its favour. There were no unnecessary twists, no gimmicks, the finale was true to the characters and the story and ended in just the right way.

My favourite scene was Walt's confession that he did it all because it made him feel good. Most of the audience knew that all along, but it felt good to hear Walt finally admitting it to himself. It was interesting seeing Skyler's reaction to that, the relief she felt. I had never really thought about it before, but it must have been painful for her to hear Walt using her and the family as the excuse for his evil deeds all this time, as though she held some responsiblity for all the death and misery that Walt had caused.

I also liked that there was no flash forward to see if things had worked out for everyone. Did Flynn get the money? Did Skyler escape a prison sentence? Did Jesse get a clean start? Maybe. Walt thinks that they will, and he went to his grave thinking that, which is what matters most for the story. To confirm or deny any of that would cheapen the ending in my opinion.

I think many would agree that Breaking Bad is that rarest of things in television; a show where the final season is its best.
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Old October 1 2013, 03:44 PM   #808
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Really, you could just view "Ozymandias" and "Granite State" as the "big" finales of the series. "Felina" was much more of an epilogue itself, that last little tease at the end of the book to cross all the "t"s and dot the "i"s.

And I agree with TheGodBen - I like that they didn't flash forward to show how things turned out for everyone. Saul, Skyler, Flynn, etc. Ultimately this wasn't their story, it was Walt's (and Jesse's). But more importantly, real life doesn't work that way.

We don't get a great Six Feet Under montage at the end of some chapter in our lives, no matter how much we may want it. And for a show like Breaking Bad, that kind of ending would have diminished what we got.

Was it the best series finale of all time? No. But was it perfect for Breaking Bad? Absolutely.
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Old October 1 2013, 04:59 PM   #809
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Now THAT'S how you do a finale! If it hadn't been for all the trouble Hank went through (the gunshot wounds, car wreck by Walt, death for him and Gomez by Nazis), then the DEA should be really thankful Heisenberg came along, since he essentially dismantled the entire crystal meth operations of several states and at least three separate countries.
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Old October 1 2013, 05:19 PM   #810
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Certainly not the best Breaking Bad episode, but a fitting conclusion nevertheless. Walt confessing to Skylar that he was in it for himself was a brilliant moment for both characters. So was Jesse finally killing Todd.

I'm gonna miss the show.
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