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Old September 30 2013, 09:32 PM   #766
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Re: Breaking Bad Final Half Season

Yeah, everything about LOST was pretty much explained outside of a few small details. Some things are a little ambiguous but there's enough clues to piece together an answer which is preferable to being spoon-fed everything; makes the show rewatchable.
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Old September 30 2013, 09:33 PM   #767
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I will definitely be making that ASAP.
Me too... Of course, we like tourists to come to ABQ and buy it here..

The Candy Lady

She also has a section in the story where she sells "naughty candy" suitable for, well, more adult candy fans..
Wow, she sells a whole line of products including the Heisenberg Hat.

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Anybody else feel sorry for Bryan Cranston now?

Cause he's NEVER getting a role this good again. Just never.
Maybe not, but it looks like Breaking Bad gave him a career boost and I don't think he'll be known as Walter White the way Hugh Laurie is known as Dr. House.
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Old September 30 2013, 09:49 PM   #768
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The fact that Cranston looks so different in real life will prevent him from being typecast.
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Old September 30 2013, 09:55 PM   #769
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Admiral2 wrote: View Post
Anybody else feel sorry for Bryan Cranston now?

Cause he's NEVER getting a role this good again. Just never.
Maybe not, but it looks like Breaking Bad gave him a career boost and I don't think he'll be known as Walter White the way Hugh Laurie is known as Dr. House.
Certainly Breaking Bad has upped Cranston's reputation as a dramatic actor, but he never needed a career "boost." He's been acting since at least the early '90s in everything. The X-Files (where Vince Gilligan first met him), Malcolm in the Middle, Murder, She Wrote, The Simpsons, Babylon 5, John Carter, Argo, How I Met Your Mother, Power Rangers, Seinfeld... the man is the very definition of "versatile actor."
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Old September 30 2013, 10:07 PM   #770
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He was awesome on Malcolm in the Middle, he is still awesome today.

10.3 million viewers.

The season 4 finale had less than 3 million, and season 1 had less than 1 million. That's like a 1100% increase.

Well deserved, a beautiful 62 hour (~45 minute long hours) movie.
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Old September 30 2013, 10:11 PM   #771
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I disagree entirely. But to further explain why, I'd need you to give me some specific examples of what things you are referring to.
I think at this point it's probably a disservice to keep discussing the particulars Lost in this Breaking Bad thread. I feel like we're sidetracking here a bit too much and that this kind of thing could go on forever. I think we can just agree that it was shitty of those people to heckle Lindelof over those things and leave it at that.
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Old September 30 2013, 10:22 PM   #772
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Certainly Breaking Bad has upped Cranston's reputation as a dramatic actor...
Yeah, that's a good way of putting it. For a while it felt like his main "boost" was shaking off being known as the dad from Malcolm in the Middle.

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10.3 million viewers.

The season 4 finale had less than 3 million, and season 1 had less than 1 million. That's like a 1100% increase.
Back when the show started, I saw the numbers and wondered why people weren't watching.
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Old September 30 2013, 10:44 PM   #773
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I don't see how Walt's finally being able to take care of his family goes against "karma". His family should continue to suffer because of karma?
I don't know about karma, but criminals' families reaping benefits from criminal enterprises is not generally considered A Good Thing. That's why the Feds -- you know, the good guys -- would have interdicted the money if they could.

Lest the episode be seen as too redemptive for him, we do get one last Hisenbergian moment from Walt as he kills Lidia for no reason other than her infringing on his perceived meth "copywrite".
I think it was primarily to eliminate her as a threat to Walt's family.
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Old September 30 2013, 10:51 PM   #774
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10.3 million viewers.
Un-frigging-real.
The season 4 finale had less than 3 million, and season 1 had less than 1 million. That's like a 1100% increase.
And Face-Off was one of the greatest season finale's ever. Gilligan gives a lot of the credit for the ratings explosion to the show's exposure to new viewers on Netflix.
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Old September 30 2013, 11:22 PM   #775
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Anybody else actually feel kind of sorry for Lydia at the end? I know she was threatening Skyler's life and had ordered Walt to be killed, but still... having her be poisoned with Ricin just felt unnecessarily cruel to me somehow. Especially given the rather contrite mood we'd seen from Walt through the rest of the hour.

I mean it was pretty clear that she wasn't some evil, sadistic mastermind or anything; she was just a fearful and nervous woman who was constantly scared about getting caught. I would think it would be enough for Walt to simply point the DEA in her direction and have her be arrested-- which for her would still be a pretty damn terrifying fate.
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Old September 30 2013, 11:26 PM   #776
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Anybody else actually feel kind of sorry for Lydia at the end?
I was thinking about her daughter. What will happen to her?

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I know she was threatening Skyler's life and had ordered Walt to be killed, but still... having her be poisoned with Ricin just felt unnecessarily cruel to me somehow.
It did seem unnecessary but the writers had to find some use for the ricin, which hadn't actually been used until that point.

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I mean it was pretty clear that she wasn't some evil, sadistic mastermind or anything; she was just a fearful and nervous woman who was constantly scared about getting caught. I would think it would be enough for Walt to simply point the DEA in her direction and have her arrested.
Tie up all loose ends. And now that we know what she was planning, it seems that Walt was right to get her out of the way.
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Old September 30 2013, 11:30 PM   #777
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I think it was primarily to eliminate her as a threat to Walt's family.
Yes, I think from the moment Walt realized Lydia had sent goons to threaten Skyler and the kids, her life wasn't worth a plugged nickel, as they say.
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Old September 30 2013, 11:32 PM   #778
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Lydia was a target because Walt knew should would call for him to be hit. It was very calculated. This wasn't the first time that she had ordered underlings to do her dirty work of killing, so she wasn't exactly any kind of innocent person. Walt was just turning that on her, which I think she deserved.
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Old September 30 2013, 11:32 PM   #779
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Anybody else actually feel kind of sorry for Lydia at the end? I know she was threatening Skyler's life and had ordered Walt to be killed, but still... having her be poisoned with Ricin just felt unnecessarily cruel to me somehow. Especially given the rather contrite mood we'd seen from Walt through the rest of the hour.
No, I didn't feel sorry for her. No more sorry than I felt for the gangsters she had gunned down in the desert.

I mean it was pretty clear that she wasn't some evil, sadistic mastermind or anything; she was just a fearful and nervous woman who was constantly scared about getting caught. I would think it would be enough for Walt to simply point the DEA in her direction and have her be arrested-- which for her would still be a pretty damn terrifying fate.
I thought it was clear she was pretty evil, she just didn't get her hands dirty. She certainly had no qualms about having Skyler killed. If she was arrested Walt would have to worry about her connections eliminating witnesses.
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Old September 30 2013, 11:33 PM   #780
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The fact that Cranston looks so different in real life will prevent him from being typecast.
Agreed. He is always showing up in extremely varied projects. He was never going to be an A-List actor, but with his performance on this show, he's cemented himself a solid finish to his career, being that he's coming up on 58. For the next 10 years he can very likely get quality work, granted, maybe not A-List motion picture work as a lead actor, but I bet we see him in cinemas doing very strong supporting work

The guy I'm worried about is Aaron Paul. If the trailer for Need For Speed, that I saw on last night's finale is any measure, he is not off to the best of starts. He has far many more years of a career to maintain, & his brilliant performance on Breaking Bad might not hold out at keeping him relevant, & may serve to even typecast him
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