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Old September 18 2013, 02:51 AM   #496
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Well, they want Walt to cook for them, that's probably why they left him money.
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Old September 18 2013, 08:43 AM   #497
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What an epic episode of television. That's all I've got right now.
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Old September 18 2013, 12:44 PM   #498
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Re: Breaking Bad Final Half Season

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Well, they want Walt to cook for them, that's probably why they left him money.
Do they still want him to cook? I thought that was why they took the money, basically as a conclusion of their association, and why Jack wanted Walt to shake on it for "no hard feelings."
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Old September 18 2013, 04:12 PM   #499
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My only problem with the story so far is that at no point was Walt really a kingpin. He was just a cook who sold a large batch of stuff to people from time to time.

He never really had an army of subordinates, never really dealed with any cartels on more than one-time type deals, and the only people who ever really feared him were the people who saw how batshit nuts he'd get and hire people -- again, only temporarily -- to do the real work for him.

That's not really a "kingpin" to me. Not even close.
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Old September 18 2013, 05:00 PM   #500
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Do they still want him to cook? I thought that was why they took the money, basically as a conclusion of their association, and why Jack wanted Walt to shake on it for "no hard feelings."
Yeah, I don't see why they would want to bother with the risk or the effort to keep cooking now that they've got, what was it? 80 million dollars?

Todd is the only one who wants to keep cooking, probably because he's jonesing on Lydia. It's why he wants to hang onto Jesse.
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Old September 18 2013, 05:45 PM   #501
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Mister Fandango wrote: View Post
My only problem with the story so far is that at no point was Walt really a kingpin. He was just a cook who sold a large batch of stuff to people from time to time.

He never really had an army of subordinates, never really dealed with any cartels on more than one-time type deals, and the only people who ever really feared him were the people who saw how batshit nuts he'd get and hire people -- again, only temporarily -- to do the real work for him.

That's not really a "kingpin" to me. Not even close.
The way I see it, he was a kingpin for all of two episodes last year. Once he made the deal with Declan, he had reached his mountaintop. Since the show does not have 20 years to show a gradual fall, he retired immediately.
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Old September 18 2013, 08:38 PM   #502
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Walt actually did have an army of subordinates, we just never saw much of them. When he, Mike, and Jesse were making a go of it, Mike made new arrangements for distribution since the old network was busted up. That's why they were all getting less money initially, because Mike had to develop a new network. You could say Mike was the true kingpin, although it's also fair to say that, as equal partners, Mike, Jesse, and Walt were all kingpins.
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Old September 18 2013, 09:04 PM   #503
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I somehow feel like we haven't seen the last Heisenberg maneuver yet
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Old September 18 2013, 09:06 PM   #504
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Walt was a mastermind who had reached the top of his game even though he wasn't the stereotypical "kingpin" with a playboy mansion, sports cars and hired thugs hanging around the compound. We saw a drug empire, but without the Hollywood gloss.
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Old September 18 2013, 09:19 PM   #505
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I think the only important thing is that Walt thinks he is a kingpin. He thinks he has finally reached his potencial and everyone else should respect his success.
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Old September 19 2013, 04:01 AM   #506
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What does kingpin mean? Walt reaches a point where no one tells him what to do. Those people who try to control him in that way, reap the consequences. This is the direction that the character is going. He's in charge. It doesn't matter that the outfit is nearly nil & completely chaotic.

This is why I think he ain't done with them money grabbing white power ex-cons. That handshake? That handshake said it all. "I'm shaking your hand... for now" It might as well have been Michael kissing Fredo on his face

All the kingpin is, is the guy nobody tells what to do, because if they cross that line, they pay the price
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Old September 19 2013, 05:53 AM   #507
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Aaron Paul was doing an interview saying if you think the last episode was crazy that was nothing compared to the last two.
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Old September 19 2013, 06:36 AM   #508
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Sweet Jesus, I wonder what could top that. You tease, Mr. Paul. I still say Walt rescues Jessie and then Jessie blows Walt's brains out anyway because of Jane. Walt was stupid as hell to fess up to that after all this time.
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Old September 19 2013, 07:32 AM   #509
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Well he felt he was fessing up to a dead man and just wanted that journey to be even more miserable, I guess.

This is how you end a series, not like Dexter...
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Old September 19 2013, 11:08 AM   #510
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Aaron Paul was doing an interview saying if you think the last episode was crazy that was nothing compared to the last two.
I don't doubt that for an instant. It just feels like this thing is going to go atomic from here out
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