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Old August 4 2013, 05:57 AM   #16
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Re: NX Ranks and crew occupations

I've always figured the security guys had some sort of rotating shift, where they worked a different department on some days. Can't imagine them sitting around in the ward room all day waiting for someone to invade the ship.
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Old August 4 2013, 06:46 AM   #17
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Might need to keep coming back to "there's only 85 people on board."

While Will Riker and Tom Paris were said to be extraordinary pilots, Star Trek seem to show that being able to handle a shuttle isn't really an unusual skill. Less piloting a high performance jet, and more just taking a van out of the motor pool. Chef might be able to pilot a shuttle.

The NX-01 could have NO designated shuttle pilots.

I did say "might" . With just 85 crew on board it is doubtful to have a non-com just there ready to fly a shuttle.

JJohnson, looking at your departmental breakdown, you could save on a few positions if you removed the separate COB and made the most senior Non-Com hold that role in addition to other duties (like the First/Second Officers).

Likewise for the damage control specialist. Unless you expect them to get damaged a lot, lol. The Assistant Chief could cover this role, overseeing damage control teams and leaving the Chief free to focus on other matters in a crisis. Also to me just 4 general engineers seems a little light.

In Operations, the Chief and Assistant Chief could also be held in addition to other roles (eg one is the Shuttle Controller and another is the quartermaster). It would free up two more spaces for other crewmembers.

You could probably lose a communications specialist, four would be plenty (one per shift and then someone to cover the Chief when they are called away).

A quarter of the crew being scientists is understandable on an exploratory vessel. Given the importance of the NX-01 mission many would have multiple degrees/doctorates so you could in fact have more specialities covered.

Security could probably be scaled back slightly, perhaps down to twelve, giving you four per shift (including the Chief). They could then be on duty in the armoury when not training, running drills or security sweeps. All Starfleet personnel would be cleared for weapon use and basic self-defence, with others being better trained than others through experience. They would also work in tandem with Tactical, covering when/where needed.

These cuts would free up eleven posts, which could then be redistributed where needed. Just some thoughts though.
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Old August 4 2013, 07:07 AM   #18
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I'd say science is overmanned. A quarter of the crew? To say nothing I think your structure is way too officer heavy. Heck even the canon Enterprise wasn't quite so much,
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Old August 4 2013, 07:30 AM   #19
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JJohnson, if you're needing names to assign to those positions, Memory Alpha might help. I can't seem to link to the list, but if you look up People, there's a listing for Starfleet Personnel (22nd Century). You'll have to sift through them to find who's alive or dead.
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Old August 4 2013, 06:38 PM   #20
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Melakon, that's pretty much the same idea I had I was using this from Memory Alpha to assign faces and names to positions as needed.

Bry, I based security on having 2 squads of 8, which may or may not be totally necessary on an ongoing basis. The first mission is escorting Earth's President, so a few extra that transfer off just on that mission might be ok.

Your other suggestions sound pretty good, and I think I'll make the Operations Officer the Chief of the Boat as a way to save some space. He can be the Boyce for Archer's Pike to give him some grizzled veteran advice when the time comes. Aside from the crew I've already posted in the story in the fan fiction segment, I've assigned a few of the unnamed crew by their real names, so you can check against Memory Alpha who's where. I'm going to take the MACOs and assign them as security officers - for the purpose of my story, MACOs are integrated into Starfleet and are used to explain the dual exploratory/military role Starfleet seems to serve.

Here's how it stands at the moment:

Captain (1), Archer
First Officer (1), Trip
Second Officer (1), Sarah DeLaney (or Reed?)

Engineering -
-chief (1) - Lt Cdr Tucker
-assistant chief (1) - Lt John Jurgens
-damage control specialist
-computer system specialist
-environmental system specialist
-warp drive system specialist
-impulse drive system specialist
-sensor system specialist
deflector system specialist
electrical system specialist
engineering officers (9)

Operations
-Chief Operations Officer (1) - MCPO Robert Rivers, Chief of the Boat
-Assistant Chief (1) - PO1? Lt JG? 1
-shuttle operations officer (1) - PO1
-chef 2
-steward 1 - CN1 Adam Anello
-quartermaster (1) - PO2?
-yeoman (1) - CN1?

Communications -
-chief (1) - Lt (currently ensign) Kayla Randall
-assistant chief (1) - Lt JG Hoshi Sato
-Linguist 2 - Phillip Boyd, Amy Connolly
-cryptologist 1

Sciences -
-chief (1) - Lt Cdr Sarah DeLaney
-assistant chief (1) - Lt. Cesar Rodriguez
-biologist 1
-botanist 1
entomologist 1
anthropologist 1
-archaeologist 1
-stellar cartographer 1
astrophysicist 1
geologist - CN1 Jack Guzman
-minerologist - CN1 Alexander Chance
physicist 1
-chemist 1
science officers 10

Medical - headed by Chief Medical Officer, Lt Cdr
-CMO (1) - Lt Cdr Trish Haley
-Assistant Chief (1) - Lt Aouri Makhlouf
-Nurse (2) 2 - CN1 Linda Yee (Cricket), CN3 Jamison Yang

Security - headed by Chief of Security, Lt.
-Chief (1) - Lt 1
-Assistant Chief (1) - Lt JG 1
-security officers 12
Tactical -
-Chief Tactical Officer - Lt Cdr Reed
-tactical officers 2
-ass't chief tactical 1

Flight Operations
-Chief Helmsman (1) - Lt Mayweather
-Assistant Chief Helmsman (1) Ensign Willie Tanner (Evan English)
-Helmsman (2) 2 PO3 Monica Parnett, Jessica Vash
-Chief Navigator (1) - Lt Martin Ko
-Assistant Chief Navigator (1) - Ensign Eric Lemler
-Navigator (2) 2 CN1 Lin Oeding, CN2 Henry Farnam

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Old August 4 2013, 06:56 PM   #21
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Re: NX Ranks and crew occupations

For your helmsmen, I caught a reference in "The Catwalk" the other day where Archer told Mayweather he'd be relieved by Tanner.

Turns out Tanner has a history as relief helm.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Tanner
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Old August 4 2013, 07:02 PM   #22
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It seemed the captain had breakfast in the mornings, so I'm thinking the traditional 3-section watch he'd be on team 1 from 0800-1200 or team 2 on the Royal Navy watch.
Historically captains are not assigned to a watch, they supervise all the watches and are available whenever needed. On all but small vessels, the same goes for the XO.
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Old August 4 2013, 07:03 PM   #23
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Thanks! Added in. I'll start part 2 of the story and start adding in crew here and there.
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Old August 5 2013, 02:31 AM   #24
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Hoshi doesn't get to be the Chief Communication officer? She practically invented the Universal Translator and is a linguistic savant.
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Old August 6 2013, 06:29 PM   #25
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Sciences -
-biologist 1
-chemist 1
Combine the positions and assign one bio-chemist to the ship.

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Old August 6 2013, 09:27 PM   #26
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I still think you're WAY officer heavy, but... Trek does that so it would be overlooked by most. I would actually see a lot of overlap between the departments. While everyone has a primary station they help out where needed. Security people would regularly be helping out in engineering when there's no fighting to be done, the scientists could help out in medical or operations if they're not actively researching, etc. You could use a janitor or two also. That ship doesn't clean itself yet.

Also, one doctor, one nurse and a couple of medical technicans would be more than enough for a ship of 80 or so people.
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Old August 6 2013, 09:44 PM   #27
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. . .You could use a janitor or two also. That ship doesn't clean itself yet.
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Old August 7 2013, 03:21 AM   #28
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FJ's TOS Enterprise plans had a breakdown of that ship's complement, much as you are doing for the NX Enterprise. You could check it out to get some general ideas.
FJ - Class I Heavy Cruiser - Constitution Class:

Officers (Command) - 43
Crew (Ensign Grade ) - 387

I believe GR had said everyone on the Enterprise was an officer.
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FJ's TOS Enterprise plans had a breakdown of that ship's complement, much as you are doing for the NX Enterprise. You could check it out to get some general ideas.
FJ - Class I Heavy Cruiser - Constitution Class:

Officers (Command) - 43
Crew (Ensign Grade ) - 387

I believe GR had said everyone on the Enterprise was an officer.
He said a lot of things that never made it to the screen. TOS had crewmen of various classes as did the shows that followed.
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. . .You could use a janitor or two also. That ship doesn't clean itself yet.
"Travis, I have a new assignment for you."

He'd get more screen time that way. He could even end up as a popular running gag like the Chef or Morn despite never getting a line.
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