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Old August 8 2013, 02:46 PM   #31
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I'm pretty fucking pissed right now. They couldn't wait until Dexter and Ray Donovan were over? I've been looking for an excuse to tell Time Warner to suck it and go to dish. Looks like I have my excuse!
Have fun when your dish provider does exactly the same thing the next time some company decides to be a dick like CBS. Since, you know, its their unreasonable demands that are causing the problem, not Time Warner.
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Old August 8 2013, 02:56 PM   #32
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Yeah, didn't the Dish Network have the same problem with AMC right around the time a new season of Walking Dead was set to premiere?
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Old August 8 2013, 04:46 PM   #33
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So, by that logic, if you plopped down $80 for a Star Trek Blu-Ray set, and found out halfway through the season that CBS home video decided through negotiation breakdown that they couldn't put the rest of the season on disc and were going to replace the last half season with episodes from Everybody Loves Raymond, you wouldn't have a problem with it? Spending your hard earned money on the set?
This has got to be one of the worst analogies I've ever seen.

I don't know about you, but I've had cable through various providers for the last thirty years. I can't remember a year where they weren't negotiating with one content provider or another and there have been many years where we've temporarily lost programming due to drawn out negotiations. DirecTV, Dish and other cable providers go through the same negotiations every single year with one content provider or another. I was with Insight before Time Warner took over and went through the same shit time and again. It's simply part of the subscription TV model.

Whispers that I hear have CBS/Showtime asking for a 600% increase in the carry fees that they receive from Time Warner. Imagine if Time Warner sent you a letter telling you they were going to increase your cost of Showtime six-fold just so you could watch Dexter on time! So it's no surprise that CBS held the premiere of Showtime's most popular show until two days after their contract with Time Warner expired, knowing that it would spark this type of response.

It's just TV, so whenever this happens I find something else to watch. If there's nothing better to watch I'll go read a book or play a video game or *gasp* go outside.
I've got plenty of shows to watch, I just don't want to wait a year for the Blu-Ray of a show to come out so I can finish watching a season I'm currently paying for anyway.

I also love the cavalier attitudes that say "It's just Dexter! Go outside fatass!" I can guaran-damn-tee you if it was a Star Trek spinoff that was off the air, there would be a shitstorm of epic proportions and this thread would already be 5000 pages long
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Old August 8 2013, 05:46 PM   #34
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I've got plenty of shows to watch, I just don't want to wait a year for the Blu-Ray of a show to come out so I can finish watching a season I'm currently paying for anyway.

I also love the cavalier attitudes that say "It's just Dexter! Go outside fatass!" I can guaran-damn-tee you if it was a Star Trek spinoff that was off the air, there would be a shitstorm of epic proportions and this thread would already be 5000 pages long
One, since this is a Trek board I'd imagine it would be a topic of discussion (though I wouldn't be upset and threatening to cancel my cable). Two, I think my point was that this simply isn't Time Warner's fault nor is it something that is unique to them.

How would you have felt if Time Warner simply gave into CBS' demands then sent you a bill with Showtime being three or four times its current rate?

You're blaming the wrong company for not being able to watch Showtime.
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Old August 8 2013, 06:10 PM   #35
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Yeah, didn't the Dish Network have the same problem with AMC right around the time a new season of Walking Dead was set to premiere?
Sure did and this time its my turn.
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Old August 8 2013, 06:26 PM   #36
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Thing is: the missed episodes are likely to show up on Showtime On-Demand almost immediately after the dispute is settled. So the only way people will have to wait a year to see the episodes on home-video is if it takes more than a year to settle the dispute.
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Old August 8 2013, 06:30 PM   #37
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I get what you're saying but it's still kind of annoying to be in the middle of an arc and then suddenly having your access to the show cut off. Whatever. First world problems and all that.
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Old August 8 2013, 06:31 PM   #38
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So nobody thinks this is the moment when the two beast cause mortal damage and the bundle system dies. I know I don't want to pay a premium to get NCIS and then Revolution when NBC gets matching funds. However without the bundle who will pay premium for Keeping up with North West?
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Old August 8 2013, 06:33 PM   #39
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I get what you're saying but it's still kind of annoying to be in the middle of an arc and then suddenly having your access to the show cut off. Whatever. First world problems and all that.
I can imagine it being an annoyance. But it's tough to take anyone serious when they go overboard saying they're going to cancel their cable because their access to a channel has been interrupted for a short time.
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Old August 8 2013, 06:37 PM   #40
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Here's an article about the dispute:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...icle-1.1420602

The cable company has already agreed to pay CBS around $2 per subscriber, a hefty boost from the current 50 cents, sources said.
This obviously isn't Time-Warner's fault as they've agreed to pay CBS four times what they currently receive per subscriber.

Time-Warner has to take a stand at some point or else the costs of subscription TV will get even more outlandish as it's time for more content providers to negotiate deals.
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Old August 8 2013, 07:59 PM   #41
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I am very unhappy with the situation. As it goes now, my TW bill is the single most expensive bill I have. To even have to face the idea of a major station being dropped is ludicrous. These bastards need to work it out, quietly and quickly without causing any problems or price increases for the consumers.
If CBS is increasing the price they charge TW, why shouldn't TW be able to pass that price onto the consumer?
TWC is being disingenuous when thye cry about wanting to protect it's customers from higher prices. That implies that they would only raise cable fees when the cost of doing business goes up. In reality they raise prices every year or two and will likely continue doing that regardless of whether their costs go up. I guess they don't feel cofortable raising prices as high as they'd need to in order to cover the CBS cost in such a short period of time.
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Yeah, didn't the Dish Network have the same problem with AMC right around the time a new season of Walking Dead was set to premiere?
Yep, and TWC did the exact same thing to Dish Networks with their own brand new sports channel launched last year. TWC was asking for a very large fee. Dish used the same TWC P.R. move, crying to their customers that they didn't want to raise prices on their customers who weren't into watching spports. They finally worked it out.

It is hard to see this thing going on too much longer. L.A. and NYC are the two largest media markets in the country and the NFL is starting soon. I can't see CBS being willing to refund all that ad money to the NFL for not broadcasting their ads. It makes more economic sense for them to forgo some of their projected profit and lower their demands.

TWC only has to worry about losing customers to the dish companies (it would seem). I know I'm not going anywhere because I'm a Lakers fan and I need their sorry ass sports channel. (actually, it's not TOO bad)
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Old August 8 2013, 08:09 PM   #42
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I'm stuck with Time Warner because that's the only provider coming into my building.
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Old August 9 2013, 01:41 PM   #43
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Totally support TW in this. They also are havign the same issue with NBC in some areas as well.
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Old August 9 2013, 01:46 PM   #44
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From the News release I got, Time Warner will be giving customers prorated rebates for the time that the premium channels like Showetime, for the time they are off the air.
I should hope so, since I'm still paying for the damn thing. This really chaps my ass since two of must watch shows come on Showtime, and now I'm going to have to wait for the fucking Blu-Rays NEXT YEAR to watch them

Time Warner sucks ass and has shitty customer service. When we got the box and Showtime, we were told AMC was coming to Time Warner shortly. Well, three years later, still no AMC, and they even aired a Time Warner/AMC/Walking Dead ad during the goddamn Superbowl. I called and raised holy hell over that.
I love TW and have had awesome customer service every time I've contacted them.. Not to mention their service has been damn reliable for many many years for me.
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Old August 9 2013, 01:49 PM   #45
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I am very unhappy with the situation. As it goes now, my TW bill is the single most expensive bill I have. To even have to face the idea of a major station being dropped is ludicrous. These bastards need to work it out, quietly and quickly without causing any problems or price increases for the consumers.
I agree. This whole situation is bullshit. I've noticed they offer Starz while all this goes on. Whoopdie-fucking-doo I didn't get Starz when I got my cable package because I DIDN'T WANT STARZ. I WANTED MY GODDAMN SHOWTIME.

Time Warner is also one of my highest bills at the moment, due to lack of competition here (I like to call it the buttcrack of the South, but that's harsh toward buttcracks), so I'm pretty much forced to go to Dish.
I can't even do that. The Apt Complex doesn't allow dishes. Its TW or nothing, basically.
Check and see if u-verse is available.
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