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Old January 18 2014, 10:56 PM   #1
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Most irreconcilable plot errors in Trek

Star Trek is full of errors and inconsistencies; many of these can be rationalized by dedicated fans and writers, but which ones are there that no amount of creative thinking can solve, and we simply have to shrug our shoulders and roll with it?
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Old January 18 2014, 11:42 PM   #2
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Re: Most irreconcilable plot errors in Trek

That episode where Odo worked at the roller rink. I know they were trying to show his search for humanity because everyone wants humanity it is simply the best but I really think they went too far, it's a plot error of character of massive proportions.

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Old January 18 2014, 11:50 PM   #3
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Re: Most irreconcilable plot errors in Trek

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That episode where Odo worked at the roller rink. I know they were trying to show his search for humanity because everyone wants humanity it is simply the best but I really think they went too far, it's a plot error of character of massive proportions.

And they missed an opportunity for an outstanding Starfleet uniform.
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Old January 19 2014, 01:27 AM   #4
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Re: Most irreconcilable plot errors in Trek

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Star Trek is full of errors and inconsistencies; many of these can be rationalized by dedicated fans and writers, but which ones are there that no amount of creative thinking can solve, and we simply have to shrug our shoulders and roll with it?
Really it depends how seriously you take the episodes and movies. Are they historical documents where everything happened exactly as seen, or are they just stories where only the broad strokes are important? Those in charge definitely see it as the latter.

Gene Roddenberry himself, writing as Kirk in the first person in the preface to his novelization of The Motion Picture, said "never have I been as foolishly heroic as depicted" and complained of "exaggeration" of his and the Enterprise's exploits during the five-year mission. If the series that started it all is suspect in the eyes of it's creator, it opens up the floodgates to questioning everything. Did the old Enterprise really get to the centre of the galaxy? Was Picard's meeting with the Borg really their first contact? Did the TNG crew really de-evolve in such ridiculous ways? Did Janeway and Paris really have warp 10 Salamander babies? Etc.
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Old January 19 2014, 07:13 AM   #5
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Re: Most irreconcilable plot errors in Trek

Sela's age vs. rank

Picard's inability to use Nexus time travel to avoid the entire threat by Soran.

The Borg's plan to unnecessarily travel to 24th century Earth, just to go back to 21st century Earth. Also that paradox thing.

Shinzon's motivation for hating the Federation and choosing suicide over necessary medical treatments.

All of Star Trek 2009

The distance and position of the U.S.S. Excelsior from Praxis in Star Trek VI.

The Enterprise-A's ability to transit to the center of the galaxy in hours and the unexplained loss of that technology both by the Federation and Klingon Empire. (Fan speculation posits the existence of rare warp highways)
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Old January 19 2014, 07:25 AM   #6
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Re: Most irreconcilable plot errors in Trek

The NX-01 travelling from Earth to Qo'noS in around 80 hours at less than warp five.

Augment virus responsible for smooth-headed Klingons, something no one in Starfleet by the 24th century is aware of.

How Archer ever made Captain as he seems pretty damned-near incompetent.

Kim never getting even the sniff of promotion.

There will of course be more, but these are just things that made no sense to me off the top of my head.
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Old January 19 2014, 07:55 AM   #7
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Re: Most irreconcilable plot errors in Trek

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That episode where Odo worked at the roller rink. I know they were trying to show his search for humanity because everyone wants humanity it is simply the best but I really think they went too far, it's a plot error of character of massive proportions.

Hilarious! Please-- where is this from?
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Old January 19 2014, 08:01 AM   #8
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Really it depends how seriously you take the episodes and movies. Are they historical documents where everything happened exactly as seen, or are they just stories where only the broad strokes are important? Those in charge definitely see it as the latter.
I think this is an excellent way to view the whole of Star Trek story-telling. As if the information is fragmented, or -at best- incomplete and the story-tellers are filling in details. Like the way paleontologists reconstruct what a dinosaur looked like all they have are bones and a knowledge of current-day animals.
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Old January 19 2014, 08:32 AM   #9
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Re: Most irreconcilable plot errors in Trek

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That episode where Odo worked at the roller rink. I know they were trying to show his search for humanity because everyone wants humanity it is simply the best but I really think they went too far, it's a plot error of character of massive proportions.

Hilarious! Please-- where is this from?
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Old January 19 2014, 11:51 AM   #10
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Re: Most irreconcilable plot errors in Trek

Faster then Light No Left Or Right.


Although since the screwup only occurred once and in Voyager, we can just list that as a gas leak episode. Although really, you should list the whole series as a gas leak episode.
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Old January 19 2014, 03:08 PM   #11
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Every moment of "These Are the Voyages."

Romulans cloaking during Enterprise.

Romulan BoPs in Enterprise looking more modern than in TOS.
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Old January 19 2014, 03:23 PM   #12
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How Archer ever made Captain as he seems pretty damned-near incompetent.
Easy. Two reasons- his father, and the fact they didn't go deep space yet by the time he made Captain. I'd say Archer would have a harder time making Captain if he was born in the 23rd or 24th to a less prominent father.

I always had the impression what his father did played a big part in how far he got in life.
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Old January 19 2014, 07:06 PM   #13
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Every moment of "These Are the Voyages."

Romulans cloaking during Enterprise.

Romulan BoPs in Enterprise looking more modern than in TOS.
Wasn't all that explained adequately in the ENT Relaunch novels?
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Old January 19 2014, 11:02 PM   #14
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Re: Most irreconcilable plot errors in Trek

It was explained..
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Old January 19 2014, 11:12 PM   #15
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As Daniel says, it's all good. It was never intended to be B5 style documentary.
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