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Old August 1 2013, 09:38 PM   #16
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This is an episode that made me wonder - why does the crew keep "personal logs?" I mean, what is the function of them? Other than letting the audience know what's going on...
It's so Starfleet can view your logs, see who you're interacting with and identify possible terrorist threats based on this information. It's collected but not viewed without express authorization from the Federation high council.
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Old August 1 2013, 10:19 PM   #17
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This is an episode that made me wonder - why does the crew keep "personal logs?" I mean, what is the function of them? Other than letting the audience know what's going on...
It's so Starfleet can view your logs, see who you're interacting with and identify possible terrorist threats based on this information. It's collected but not viewed without express authorization from the Federation high council.
The good guys never have a problem accessing people's personal logs when they're missing/dead or there's any other general need. So yeah, if Section 31 isn't getting copies of everything I'd be damn surprised.
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Old August 1 2013, 10:26 PM   #18
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This is why Sisko deleted one of his log entries after spilling his guts.
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Old August 2 2013, 03:48 AM   #19
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Do they think the world cares?

Sadly/disgustingly, I think they do.
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Old August 2 2013, 03:49 AM   #20
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Yes, Data had blue eyes in exactly one timeline. It was a subtle touch. I wonder if even Worf noticed.
I've never noticed that! Must go and look.
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Old August 2 2013, 11:28 AM   #21
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I think Prime Worf passing through the anomaly must have caused other Worfs to also start jumping across realities. Just look at all the Enterprises in the vicinity of the anomaly near the end. And what about all those different Worfs seen in the shuttle when Worf Prime flies back through it?

Remember when Worf arrives in the reality where he's first officer and he and Deanna have kids, Data immediately asks him if he's noticed another discontinuity. To me, this proves that that reality's Worf had already been replaced by yet another Worf prior to the arrival of Worf Prime.....ah, it's confusing!
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Old August 3 2013, 08:10 AM   #22
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Just imagine what ran through that captains head when he saw thousands of Galaxy class hips apparently decloaking around him...
After all the Enterprises started appearing, Lt. Crusher unceremoniously states, "The Bajoran ship is disengaging, sir." I got a giggle thinking the Bajoran captain's eyes were 10 times their normal size after seeing all those ships appear.

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Remember when Worf arrives in the reality where he's first officer and he and Deanna have kids, Data immediately asks him if he's noticed another discontinuity. To me, this proves that that reality's Worf had already been replaced by yet another Worf prior to the arrival of Worf Prime.....ah, it's confusing!
Yah that's the thing. In the reality he jumped into in that scene, Worf, Data, and the doctor were in sickbay already and Data clearly knew why they were there. I'm guessing a whole bunch of Worfs started jumping after passing through the anomaly.
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Old August 3 2013, 10:08 PM   #23
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This is an episode that made me wonder - why does the crew keep "personal logs?" I mean, what is the function of them? Other than letting the audience know what's going on...

Do they think they'll want to watch them in future, as a way of keeping treasured memories? Is it like they're writing in their journals or something? That seems like an odd thing for someone like Worf to do. "Dear Diary, today I won the Bat'leth tournament, yay! It was hard but I believed in myself and I won the trophy for the bestest player! Now I'm going back to my duties on the Enterprise. I'm really looking forward to it, but uh-oh! Today is my BIRTHDAY! I hope the crew don't throw me a surprise party. Love, Worf."
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Men can keep journals. It isn't a teenage girl thing.
Why would you assume that only teenage girls, and not men, would talk like the example in my post?
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Old August 4 2013, 01:38 AM   #24
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I'm not even sure if the Worf we see in the teaser is "our" Worf.
He isn't - there's already at least one anomaly there before he first runs into LaForge, who is the root cause of all the subsequent jumps. Namely, there's a surprise party for Worf, even though in the "reset" timeline in the end, we learn that Troi has talked Riker out of arranging one.

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He is, though. By passing through the anomaly, Worf has already jumped to a different timeline than the one he started in. Proximity to Geordi's visor only exacerbates the problem, not causes it.
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Old August 4 2013, 02:14 AM   #25
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Yes, Data had blue eyes in exactly one timeline. It was a subtle touch. I wonder if even Worf noticed.
I've never noticed that! Must go and look.
I thought it would have been cool if Data was human (the literal son of Soong) in one of the quantum universes...
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Old August 4 2013, 02:36 AM   #26
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Yes, Data had blue eyes in exactly one timeline. It was a subtle touch. I wonder if even Worf noticed.
I've never noticed that! Must go and look.
I thought it would have been cool if Data was human (the literal son of Soong) in one of the quantum universes...
It would make more sense if he let Q turn him into a human in Deja Q.
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Old August 5 2013, 02:59 AM   #27
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Wesley: We're receiving 285,000 hails.
Riker: On screen.

On screen? Seriously? Riker, how big is that screen?
That's my favorite scene from this, one of my 3 favorite season 7 episodes.
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Old August 5 2013, 08:12 AM   #28
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He is, though. By passing through the anomaly, Worf has already jumped to a different timeline than the one he started in.
Okay, we have a different definition of "Our Worf" here. I wanted to point out that Worf has already entered a parallel universe, not to imply that his personality would have changed somehow; his quantum signature is apparently already out of synch with the universe when he arrives at the Enterprise.

Whether his personality has changed, whether his quantum signature is different from the one of the universe in all the other TNG episodes... We don't exactly know. We think we follow the "same" Worf through all the permutations, but there's lots of confusion there, and in theory "our" Worf could be one of those other yellowshirts who pop up in the shuttle towards the end. Or we could switch tracks and start following an all-new Worf and an all-new universe from this episode on (you know, one who doesn't get surprise parties and does get open expressions of affectation from Deanna Troi). The default assumption is that this is indeed "Our Worf" throughout the entire episode and series, though.

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Old August 7 2013, 02:04 PM   #29
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Well obviously each Worf in the respective universes had different experiences.

One Worf may never have been discommended, met Kurn, or fought in the Klingon civil war to regain their honour. Another Worf may not have killed Duras, and for all we know Duras may have been head of the Council in another universe. We did not know that Alexander did not exist in all universes. K'Empec could still be alive and Chancellor, who knows? Worf may have killed Gowron earlier, and long before the end of DS9 heh..
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Old August 8 2013, 06:18 PM   #30
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Yes, Data had blue eyes in exactly one timeline. It was a subtle touch. I wonder if even Worf noticed.
Heck, I didn't until I owned the DVDs.
I didn't even notice until it was pointed out by my best friend when we were re-watching my DVD copy, and by then, I'd owned a copy of the episode for 15 years (first on VHS, then on DVD) and I had seen it a couple thousand times.

And, it's my favorite TNG episode.

But then, eye color IS one of those unimportant details that almost nobody pays attention to.
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