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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old August 16 2013, 10:15 PM   #46
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Re: What do we know about the years between ST5 and ST6?

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Interestingly, Uhura Prime wore command gold for a few episodes, perhaps suggesting career ambitions cut short by Kirk reshuffling his crew after the early casualties and before the first proper starbase visit.
Or Uhura, a capable adult person, making a career choice for her own reasons.
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Old August 16 2013, 10:23 PM   #47
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Or the damn replicator screwed up that day.
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Old August 16 2013, 10:26 PM   #48
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Or Uhura was color-blind and thought she was still wearing a gold uniform the whole time.
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Old August 16 2013, 11:05 PM   #49
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Or the damn replicator screwed up that day.
Or a mix-up in the laundry room.
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Old August 16 2013, 11:51 PM   #50
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Gold skirts were pretty rare. The only one of any significance was Martine in Balance of Terror. Female guest stars tended to be in red or blue. Silent extras got gold.
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Old August 17 2013, 05:10 AM   #51
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Gold skirts were pretty rare. The only one of any significance was Martine in Balance of Terror. Female guest stars tended to be in red or blue. Silent extras got gold.
Wasn't there a Lt. Radha in That Which Survives?
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Old August 17 2013, 12:22 PM   #52
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Then there's Captain D. Okuda, appearing in many publications and a few TOS-R portholes...

Uhura wearing red for most of the five-year mission might be chalked up as her "temping" in a "services" job on her way to command positions, much like Riker wore mustard. She would have limited options to do back-and-forth when stuck on the deep space ship, hence a longer stint as with many other "command characters". But she is then seen sticking to "services" colors for the entire run of the TOS movies. From what we are led to understand of the significance of the command color, this would seem to amount to her career stalling. (Or then moving to the SFI path behind the scenes.)

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Old August 17 2013, 04:16 PM   #53
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Gold skirts were pretty rare. The only one of any significance was Martine in Balance of Terror. Female guest stars tended to be in red or blue. Silent extras got gold.
Wasn't there a Lt. Radha in That Which Survives?
I knew someone would think of another one. Yeah, I forgot about her. Not sure if her part was as significant as Martine's, but a step or two above the usual no name extra gold skirt.
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I knew someone would think of another one. Yeah, I forgot about her.
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Old August 17 2013, 09:35 PM   #55
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In most stories, Uhura is an excellent linguist. Except in "The Undiscovered Country", I guess.
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Uhura is never shown to be a linguist in the TV series or movies until J.J. Abrams shows up.
She is in numerous novels, tho. She also makes updates to the Universal Translator in several novels. I think it makes the character a lot richer. Otherwise, she just ends up being the receptionist that answers the phone.
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In most stories, Uhura is an excellent linguist. Except in "The Undiscovered Country", I guess.
No.

Uhura is never shown to be a linguist in the TV series or movies until J.J. Abrams shows up.
She is in numerous novels, tho. She also makes updates to the Universal Translator in several novels. I think it makes the character a lot richer. Otherwise, she just ends up being the receptionist that answers the phone.
This is true, and I've probably gone to that well myself on occasion. But it's probably worth remembering that this was NEVER established onscreen, so a movie isn't "wrong" if it "forgets" about it.

You can't forget what was never there.
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Old August 17 2013, 10:03 PM   #57
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Why couldn't a receptionist be a significant heroine?

It's not as if you really need a doctorate in order to be an interesting person, or a courageous individual, or a rich and pivotal character in drama. Aboard a starship, you can contribute a lot by being able to fix machinery: 430 lives might depend on you for that.

Sulu never got short-shifted for only knowing how to turn left and right, for some reason. Even the novels don't dwell on his supposed "physics" background as indicated in "Where No Man"; it's something Sulu leaves well behind after Enterprise: The First Adventure and The Entropy Effect. Sure, he has all sorts of eccentric and short-lived hobbies, but he doesn't need to be a skilled something-or-other in addition to being able to perform evasive maneuvers.

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Old August 18 2013, 12:56 AM   #58
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Sulu also got to fire Phasers and Photon Torpedoes until the first couple of movies. The Navigator (Chekov in the later episodes) didn't seem to have much to do.
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Old August 18 2013, 04:19 PM   #59
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Sulu also got to fire Phasers and Photon Torpedoes until the first couple of movies. The Navigator (Chekov in the later episodes) didn't seem to have much to do.
In the books, I tend to let Chekov fire the weapons just to give him something to do. Sulu pilots the ship, Uhura handles communications, and Chekov gets to shoot things and raises shields on occasion.

(Chekov can also be used to scan alien ships and probes if Spock is not available.)
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Old August 18 2013, 04:46 PM   #60
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Re: What do we know about the years between ST5 and ST6?

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No.

Uhura is never shown to be a linguist in the TV series or movies until J.J. Abrams shows up.
She is in numerous novels, tho. She also makes updates to the Universal Translator in several novels. I think it makes the character a lot richer. Otherwise, she just ends up being the receptionist that answers the phone.
This is true, and I've probably gone to that well myself on occasion. But it's probably worth remembering that this was NEVER established onscreen, so a movie isn't "wrong" if it "forgets" about it.

You can't forget what was never there.
I read somewhere that Uhura'a linguistic skills were added to the character for the aborted Phase II television series, and it's something Nichelle talked about at conventions - hence it's inclusion in several novels (IIRC, she even spoke perfect Klingon in one of Diane Duane's!)

I guess, like McCoy's divorce backstory, it's one of those little pseudo-canon tidbits that never fully materialized until the reboot.
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