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Old July 30 2013, 04:42 AM   #1
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Janeway's Children

So I was scrolling through tumblr, and I found this



Somebody went a step further and made a meme out of this.

Checking Memory Alpha, this is indeed on the page. How could they remind us of this tragedy?


To the bigger question. Could the Doctor have used his Anti-proton scifi fix to make these three salamanders...


humans?



I know most people aren't fans of kids on Star Trek. However in VOY case there should have been more, even a modest effort to set up that Voyager could potentially be a generational ship. We had Naomi Wildman, Icheb, the 3 other Borg children and a baby that mysteriously disappeared after it's intro episode but that is all. On TNG we saw kids besides Wesley in some episodes and they were harmless enough as background characters.

Was there enough room for a Mama Janeway and Papa Paris subplot?

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Old July 30 2013, 04:46 AM   #2
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I always wondered that as well. It fixed Janeway and Paris easy enough. What deadbeat parents just abandoning your kids on a deserted planet. They're gonna be angry when they grow up.
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Old July 30 2013, 05:03 AM   #3
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Dang, R. Star, I think you just discovered the plot to a possible Voyager movie!
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Old July 30 2013, 05:07 AM   #4
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^ they can be united by Chakotay's "son". Make the baby half human, half cardassian like was originally planned in Basics Part 1, but changed in Basics part 2 to being Culluh's son. Have them lead a Kazon force in to the AQ to take revenge on their negligent parents.
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Old July 30 2013, 05:17 AM   #5
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I always wondered about the decision to leave them on that planet. How did they know they were developed enough to take care of themselves?

I also wonder if those three are enough of a stable genetic base to populate that planet. Maybe that could be the plot of a new series
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Old July 30 2013, 08:06 AM   #6
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OH wow, has that bit in Memoryalpha always been there?? WOW.

These children are always just ignored as some weirdass glitch of warp 10 so seeing them listed in memoryalpha is big! And interesting they call them human.

I love this topic. I get to post this video again.

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Old July 30 2013, 01:52 PM   #7
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I don't think leaving them on that planet would have any long lasting effects on that world. Three beings are not enough to populate. And maybe all three of them were boys or all three of them were girls. Even if there was one of each and they could reproduce, they would have died off after a few generations from inbreeding.

the doctor was able to reactivate the human DNA left in Paris and Janeway right? so what if the babies didn't have any huma DNA in them at all, nothing to reactivate since they were born in that form
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Old July 30 2013, 01:53 PM   #8
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But maybe when you are hyper-evolved inbreeding is no longer a problem.
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Old July 30 2013, 01:54 PM   #9
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maybe.....there are creatures on earth that reproduce asexually, no genetic diversity there
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Old July 30 2013, 05:58 PM   #10
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Re: Janeway's Children

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OH wow, has that bit in Memoryalpha always been there?? WOW.

These children are always just ignored as some weirdass glitch of warp 10 so seeing them listed in memoryalpha is big! And interesting they call them human.

I love this topic. I get to post this video again.

It's been on Memory Alpha as long as I've been checking it, yeah.

And that video....
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Old July 30 2013, 10:08 PM   #11
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It would have been against the prime directive to remove them from their natural habitat.



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Old July 30 2013, 10:21 PM   #12
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It would have been against the prime directive to remove them from their natural habitat.



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Old July 30 2013, 10:32 PM   #13
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Is the natural habitat of a hyper-evolved human some undeveloped planet in the Delta Quadrant? I doubt it.
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Old July 30 2013, 10:42 PM   #14
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It's "Space Seed" all over again. The Children arrive on Earth before Voyager, and take over the world.
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Old July 31 2013, 01:59 AM   #15
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I always wondered that as well. It fixed Janeway and Paris easy enough. What deadbeat parents just abandoning your kids on a deserted planet. They're gonna be angry when they grow up.
I've seen some pretty good fanfic on fanfiction.net about this. And yeah, the kids were PISSED.
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