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Old April 16 2012, 09:24 PM   #1
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Engines of Destiny: That bad?

I haven't yet read the novel "Engines of Destiny", but I have to ask, is it REALLY as bad as everyone has made it out to be?

What were some really bad elements?

Discuss.
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Old April 16 2012, 09:27 PM   #2
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Re: Engines of Destiny: That bad?

I read it a while back and if I remember correctly it tries to tie in Kirk's story from Generations and Scotty post-Relics and some weird alternate reality with Guinan
I may be misremembering but if it was good I would most likely remember it better
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Old April 16 2012, 10:01 PM   #3
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Re: Engines of Destiny: That bad?

Yes.
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Old April 16 2012, 10:53 PM   #4
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Re: Engines of Destiny: That bad?

Thanks for the insight.

Thrawn-Somewhat relevant; that flowchart of yours has been pretty helpful lately! It's nice to see how several of the books connect.
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Old April 16 2012, 11:06 PM   #5
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Re: Engines of Destiny: That bad?

I'm really glad. It's the sort of thing I would've wanted when I started reading TrekLit again a few years ago, I'm glad it's helping other people.
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Old April 16 2012, 11:14 PM   #6
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Re: Engines of Destiny: That bad?

Seconded on the love for your flowchart, Thrawn. That and several of the threads on here have been immensely helpful for me - I've been completely out of Treklit since, oh, about the time New Frontier started, and started buying again last month, trying to start making my way up to the current stuff. I've bought about 40 books already - just bought all of Destiny today, now I just need the rest of the books leading up to it!
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Old April 16 2012, 11:19 PM   #7
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Engines Of Destiny being bad? I've never heard this. Everyone that I was talking to at the time it came out where really enjoying, and I enjoyed it as well.

Basically Scotty, after the events of Star Trek Generations tries to go back in time, rescue Kirk from the B, but that ends up allowing the galaxy to be overrun by the Borg.
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Old April 17 2012, 12:10 AM   #8
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Re: Engines of Destiny: That bad?

I have quite enjoyed a few Gene DeWeese novels, but they are usually a bit techie for my liking. I've also had to grin and bear "Into the Nebula", which I recall only as tedious - and Gene himself once replied to my online post to admit that even he couldn't recall its plot either.

But "Engines of Destiny" was okay. What made it more intriguing is that it used to be listed on Steve Roby's "Lost Star Trek novels" page for several years. Someone was in a public library and noticed a reference to the rejected draft manuscript of EoD in a pile of paperwork donated to that library by Gene DeWeese. It had been one of those "upcoming novels" that managed not to get any pre-publicity, lost in an editorial reshuffle; I know, for me, who followed the paths of several other more infamous, still-lost "lost novels", seeing it on Steve's page was my first introduction to EoD.

After discussion by fans online, the book was reenergized by Marco and was finally published.
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Old April 17 2012, 12:18 AM   #9
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Re: Engines of Destiny: That bad?

I quite enjoyed the first half of Into the Nebula a few years back, but then a german shepherd ate my copy, and, while I've since bought a replacement copy, I haven't yet gone back and reread it, so, I guess that tells you something.
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Old April 17 2012, 12:33 AM   #10
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Re: Engines of Destiny: That bad?

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I quite enjoyed the first half of Into the Nebula a few years back, but then a german shepherd ate my copy...
It would have come back in a few days. (Woulda still been tedious. Sorry Gene.)
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Old April 17 2012, 01:02 AM   #11
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Re: Engines of Destiny: That bad?

I read "Engines of Destiny" just a couple of weeks ago - and I enjoyed it. Not a masterpiece, but good fun. But, I love time travel/alternate reality stories. If you hate those...
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Old April 17 2012, 01:07 AM   #12
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Great concept, but the execution left much to be desired.
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Old April 17 2012, 02:52 AM   #13
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Re: Engines of Destiny: That bad?

It's been a few years since I read it, so I don't remember all of it, but I do remember liking it, despite the fact that I found the notion of "resurrecting Kirk" to be a tired one.
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Old April 17 2012, 05:13 AM   #14
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Re: Engines of Destiny: That bad?

I remember Kirk not feeling or sounding anything like Kirk is supposed to, and feeling kind of "meh" when finishing. Nevertheless, I still count it as part of my "personal continuity", as the Historian's note at the end features Scotty in the year 2422, his 200th birthday, and that means that he finds his way back from his fate at the end of Indistinguishable From Magic.
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Old April 17 2012, 05:46 AM   #15
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Re: Engines of Destiny: That bad?

It was okay. Not stellar, and not one I'd suggest digging around for.
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