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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old July 1 2014, 02:02 AM   #1
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The Enterprise-E is so ugly

It looks weird and never even looks like the same ship from different angles.

They should have just kept the D. It was iconic.
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Old July 1 2014, 02:06 AM   #2
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Old July 1 2014, 02:11 AM   #3
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The Enterprise E is so ugly, Breen ships won't ask her out.
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Old July 1 2014, 02:23 AM   #4
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Re: The Enterprise-E is so ugly

The Enterprise-E is so ugly...

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...The Enterprise-E is so ugly, no one wants to get their hands on her BLANK.
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Old July 1 2014, 02:30 AM   #5
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Old July 1 2014, 02:35 AM   #6
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Old July 1 2014, 02:40 AM   #7
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Re: The Enterprise-E is so ugly

I have to agree with those here (and in the other thread) who say the Ent-E is ugly. I *never* appreciated her, not in 1996, not in 2002 and certainly not today. Both internally and externally she's dank, dull and lacking in character, everything about the design feels like the guy who designed her for Starfleet in-universe must have been clinically depressed. I'd certainly hate serving on her. The 1701-D by comparison was full of life and vibrancy. It made a much better visual imprint IMO and in both the TV series and in the 'Generations' movie it feels like home. But 1701-E was so sterile feeling, like if everybody had sold up their charming 18th century cottage and moved into a soul-destroying McMansion. 1701-E was such a generic looking ship, it could have been from any other sci-fi franchise.

It worked for 'First Contact'..... barely..... facing up against the Borg ship and whatnot it was a good visual match..... but 'Insurrection' and 'Nemesis' both really showed up the flaws in the visual design. Put 1701-E in any "ordinary" non-combat situation and it just looks wrong from inside to out.

So yeah. I'm not a fan of the Enterprise-E here.
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Old July 1 2014, 03:18 AM   #8
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It never worked for me. It looked like they took elements of the Connie-refit, the Excelsior and Voyager and put them in a bag and then stomped on it.
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Old July 1 2014, 03:32 AM   #9
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Re: The Enterprise-E is so ugly

I thought the ship fit the design of its time. Each era had their unique design. Kirk's era had the Constitution, Miranda, and Excelsior-like ships; followed by TNG's Ambassador, Galaxy, Nebula-like ships; to the darker/sleeker/war time ships like the Defiant, Voyager, and the Sovereign.
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Old July 1 2014, 03:34 AM   #10
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It never worked for me. It looked like they took elements of the Connie-refit, the Excelsior and Voyager and put them in a bag and then stomped on it.
^ Yeah, I felt exactly the same way about Voyager as well.

1701-D felt vibrant and like a community in space. 1701-E and Voyager each felt like sterile work environments. I know which I prefer.

I also agree with what somebody said in the other thread about the Enterprise-D being iconic and an important part of 'The Next Generation' in itself. And given that the TNG movies were being launched off the back of the then outstanding popularity of that show's final season, it seems very short-sighted of the producers to have just arbitrarily destroyed the 1701-D and replaced it. As someone said in the other thread, it's like if they'd replaced the DeLorean in BTTF2 with some other car. Or turning the TARDIS exterior into something resembling a generic spaceship instead of a beat-up old police box.

Indeed, for marketing purposes its obvious that the 1701-D has once again supplanted the 1701-E as 'representing' TNG visually, which says it all really. Nobody outside of the fandom cares for the 1701-E.
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Old July 1 2014, 03:48 AM   #11
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Re: The Enterprise-E is so ugly

The E has that klingon ktinga looking plating, which seems very wrong, but overall it is still a huge improvement on the -d, which is just comically front-heavy, with those itty bitty nacelles in back that look like they are mounted backwards (try putting the model together wrong, it is a distinct improvement) that it has never looked right to me.

I'd've been much happier with the -C design for the -D, OR for the -E.
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Old July 1 2014, 03:54 AM   #12
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I actually like the "D" because it looked unique while still looking like a Star Trek ship.
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Old July 1 2014, 04:20 AM   #13
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Old July 1 2014, 04:20 AM   #14
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Melakon wrote: View Post
The Enterprise-E is so ugly...

The Old Mixer wrote: View Post
[matchgameaudience]HOW UGLY IS IT?[/matchgameaudience]
...The Enterprise-E is so ugly, no one wants to get their hands on her BLANK.
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Richard Dawson: "WARP CORE EJECTION SHAFT"
Paul Lynde: "The Enterprise "E" (creepy laugh, laugh) is so ugly (creepy laugh laugh) she could knock a (creepy laugh laugh) what was the (creepy laugh laugh) question? (Creepy laugh laugh)...
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Old July 1 2014, 04:28 AM   #15
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Re: The Enterprise-E is so ugly

Well, as long as the topic has established itself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItbjtWa_DNM

What, were they all stoned, or what? Weird times...
It's scary I'm (we're!) old enough to remember this.
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