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Old July 24 2013, 04:50 AM   #16
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Re: The least disliked episode of TNG - Season Two

Where Silence Has Lease

This episode can be creepy on the first viewing, but on the 10th, it can be a little slow and boring.

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Old July 24 2013, 06:37 AM   #17
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Re: The least disliked episode of TNG - Season Two

Hmm, I'll have to go with A Matter of Honor.

Elementary, Dear Data
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The Measure of a Man
Contagion
Time Squared
Pen Pals
Q Who?
The Emissary
Peak Performance


Riker fucks some scientist's wife, he finds out and gets jealous, tries to kill him and blows up the station by accident.

Yeah, so enlightened

Both acted like shitheads, so off it goes!
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Old July 24 2013, 08:15 AM   #18
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Hmm, I'll have to go with A Matter of Honor.

Riker fucks some scientist's wife, he finds out and gets jealous, tries to kill him and blows up the station by accident.

Yeah, so enlightened

Both acted like shitheads, so off it goes!
Wtf, where is your PERSPECTIVE?
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Old July 24 2013, 08:26 AM   #19
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Ah, the list is getting down to the good episodes, so I'll remove the least good of the good from the list: Elementary, Dear Data. There are better holodeck episodes. Granted, they are scant on TNG.

What was the fascination with Sherlock Holmes circa 1988? I recall the cartoon Bravestarr did a 2-part pilot of Sherlock Holmes in the 24th Century (hmmm....), which eventually became a tv series a decade later (no one bit at it in 1988... or Filmation went under and the idea went with them). And I think there was something else, a movie perhaps? Hmmm... I might have an idea. Yep. Sherlock Holmes debuted in 1887, so the stuff in 1987/88 might've been trying to mark the 100th anniversary of the character.

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Old July 24 2013, 08:43 AM   #20
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It IS getting more difficult to drop an episode now. Ill go with "Time Squared", since Ive never cared much for time travel related epsiodes or those with two Kirks in TOS - and having two Picards is only slightly better

PS: I also removed "Elementary, Dear Data" for DeepSpaceWine

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Old July 24 2013, 10:41 AM   #21
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Hmm, I'll have to go with A Matter of Honor.

Riker fucks some scientist's wife, he finds out and gets jealous, tries to kill him and blows up the station by accident.
You're thinking of an entirely different episode...

Anyway, off goes Contagion, it's the weakest of the lot.
It has Romulans, entering th neutral zone, a mysterious ancient culture and a Galaxy class ship blowing up, it should have been a far more coherent episode instead of a jumbled mess it turned out.

Not to mention the resolution of the episode is essentially "have you tried turning it off and on again?"...

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Old July 24 2013, 11:08 AM   #22
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Ah, the list is getting down to the good episodes, so I'll remove the least good of the good from the list: Elementary, Dear Data. There are better holodeck episodes. Granted, they are scant on TNG.

What was the fascination with Sherlock Holmes circa 1988? I recall the cartoon Bravestarr did a 2-part pilot of Sherlock Holmes in the 24th Century (hmmm....), which eventually became a tv series a decade later (no one bit at it in 1988... or Filmation went under and the idea went with them). And I think there was something else, a movie perhaps? Hmmm... I might have an idea. Yep. Sherlock Holmes debuted in 1887, so the stuff in 1987/88 might've been trying to mark the 100th anniversary of the character.

However there was a TV series that adapted the stories that started in 1984 and ran to 1994, On ITV in the UK.
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Old July 24 2013, 01:47 PM   #23
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Hmm, I'll have to go with A Matter of Honor.

Riker fucks some scientist's wife, he finds out and gets jealous, tries to kill him and blows up the station by accident.

Yeah, so enlightened

Both acted like shitheads, so off it goes!
Wtf, where is your PERSPECTIVE?
This selection should be voided as the poster obviously has no idea of what he has voted for.

It's not the one with the space station. It's the one with the historian from the future who turns out to be a thief from the past.
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Old July 24 2013, 01:55 PM   #24
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I've removed Pen Pals, not because it is a poor episode but because it is the worst of the list we're left with. If I have to voice a reason it is that Riker comes across as a douche with his reasoning behind allowing the species to die.

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Old July 24 2013, 04:09 PM   #25
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Re: The least disliked episode of TNG - Season Two

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GalaxyX wrote: View Post
Hmm, I'll have to go with A Matter of Honor.

Riker fucks some scientist's wife, he finds out and gets jealous, tries to kill him and blows up the station by accident.

Yeah, so enlightened

Both acted like shitheads, so off it goes!
Wtf, where is your PERSPECTIVE?
This selection should be voided as the poster obviously has no idea of what he has voted for.

It's not the one with the space station. It's the one with the historian from the future who turns out to be a thief from the past.
Actually, that's A Matter of Time. A Matter of Honor features Riker being assigned to a Klingon ship.


Now Peak Performance gets the boot because the guest star annoyed the hell out of me. He really overplayed the squirmy, pompous arrogance of that character. He did something with his eyes that reminded me of the "shifty dog" from that episode of the Simpsons where Homer tries to convince Mel Gibson a dog in his movie should be given shifty eyes so that the audience would suspect him.

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Old July 24 2013, 05:17 PM   #26
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Man this last group has what seems to be best of S2 in it. The only one that stands out to me as not belonging is the awkward (and improbable) "The Schizoid Man".

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Old July 24 2013, 05:38 PM   #27
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Re: The least disliked episode of TNG - Season Two

I imagine the final two will be a tough one. Perhaps it can be put up to a vote?

Funny that both Klingon-centric episodes make it to the top 4. Of the 4, I think A Matter of Honor is the weakest link. Both Klingon episodes have silly premises - one with a frozen crew who wake up to wreak havoc, and the other an officer exchange program. BTW, why did it take a full season for the Klingons to send over an officer in return?

What weakens A Matter of Honor is the Mendon/Mordok thing. I can't remember which is which, but his fish out of water subplot was weird. The Emissary is free of a silly subplot like that, and Worf/Dorn really gets to shine in it.


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Old July 24 2013, 06:27 PM   #28
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I cant possibly ditch Q introducing us to the Borg or Datas struggle to be accepted as a person so Im afraid "The Emissary" has to go.

The Measure of a Man
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Now who makes the final call for season two?
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Old July 24 2013, 06:37 PM   #29
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I cant possibly ditch Q introducing us to the Borg or Datas struggle to be accepted as a person so Im afraid "The Emissary" has to go.

The Measure of a Man
Q Who?

Now who makes the final call for season two?
Man... I knew it would come down to these two... I really don't know how to call that....
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Old July 24 2013, 06:38 PM   #30
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Well then, at last "Measure" has to go.

The Winner is: "Q who?" - it lays the ground to the best ST-Twoparter and Cliffhanger ever.

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