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View Poll Results: Rate From History's Shadow.
Outstanding 19 35.19%
Above Average 22 40.74%
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Old July 30 2013, 07:16 PM   #16
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Re: TOS: From History's Shadow by Dayton Ward Review Thread (Spoilers!

waiting for my book to come in the mail son..Defcon thanks for posting the link to Dayton Ward's site that certainly was interesting reading about his ideas for writing this novel.
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Old August 1 2013, 02:10 AM   #17
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Re: TOS: From History's Shadow by Dayton Ward Review Thread (Spoilers!

I always love Dayton's work and am looking forward to reading this one. This question is for anyone that's already read this one. I'm curious, does this novel build on any of Greg Cox's work from this timeframe where I should read those novels before starting this one? How about The Aliens Are Coming that Dayton mentioned on his blog, should I read that one before starting?

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Old August 1 2013, 03:38 PM   #18
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Ward's book is done "in the spirit" of the Cox works but you needn't have read the latter to fully appreciate the former. But you should do so in any case.
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Old August 1 2013, 05:27 PM   #19
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TrekCore has posted anew Interview with Dayton Ward about writing From History's shadow he also said he'd like to write some Tos and Enterprise novels too.
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Old August 1 2013, 05:28 PM   #20
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TrekCore has posted anew Interview with Dayton Ward about writing From History's shadow he also said he'd like to write some Tos and Enterprise novels too.
I thought this was a TOS novel?
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Old August 1 2013, 06:19 PM   #21
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It is but he also included a storyline about a certain Vulcan character from Carbon Creek .and he wants to write future Star Trek books that take place In Archer's era and leads to Kirk's era. It's a good interview with Dayton discussing writing his latest novel..
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Old August 2 2013, 04:28 PM   #22
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It is a solid piece of work and has various bits and bobs for people who like to spot references to the TV series - worth picking up if like counter-history stuff.
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Old August 2 2013, 06:49 PM   #23
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Got my copy today and expect to start tomorrow.
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Old August 2 2013, 08:03 PM   #24
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It is but he also included a storyline about a certain Vulcan character from Carbon Creek .and he wants to write future Star Trek books that take place In Archer's era and leads to Kirk's era. It's a good interview with Dayton discussing writing his latest novel..
I'm rather hoping Christopher has the Archer era all sewn up for the foreseeable future...
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Old August 2 2013, 10:01 PM   #25
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It links to that era but in a way that doesn't step on anyone's toes - except for the bit where he reveals that Archer thought that crack was pretty 'moreish'.
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Old August 3 2013, 02:05 PM   #26
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I like Christopher's Enterprise novel but I also think it would be neat to see Dayton write some Enterprise novels too.I'd think it would be interesting to see what stories he'd could come up with in the Enterprise era.He's done an excellent with the Enterprise storyline with Mestral in this novel and the temporal cold war.

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Old August 3 2013, 04:07 PM   #27
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I miss the Temporal Cold War.
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Old August 3 2013, 09:00 PM   #28
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Just started and am not certain how well it will proceed. If there is no temporal cold war in the 20th century that would be fine by me.
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Old August 4 2013, 06:42 PM   #29
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Just finished and after some internal debate rated it outstanding.

At first I was just going to give it an above average. But after some thinking there was one important thing that pushed it up to the top.

A unique point of view.

Here's the thing, as Trek fans we are on the "inside" we look at the events of things like Little Green Men, or Assignment: Earth knowing for the most part who every one is and what is going on. While there might be characters and moments that at first we are unsure of for the most part we know who the good guys are and who the bad guys are, and we know how the future within this reality turns out.

But take away that knowledge. Put yourself in the shoes of someone who's only certainty is that there are alien beings (after all he's met them). In the fullness of time he learns that some aliens want to help, but some don't. Some want to destroy us. Imagine what a frightening place the world would be with that knowledge. Now even worse imagine that most everyone else has no such certainty on the matter and even worse you are restrained from ever sharing what you know.

Suddenly the history that we know takes on a new darker tint. Suddenly the fear and suspicion with which Starfleet officers from the future have been greeted with by people in the past doesn't seem quite so silly or backwards. Sure *WE* know that they are the good guys. But for people living in the moment they don't.

Another delight of this book for me was that it was my favorite type of Trek novel, namely a connect the dots story where multiple episodes are connected together in a coherent narrative framework. CTD novels are not easy to do well. Often they come off as interesting but not really standing on their own merits. In some ways I will confess that I almost wish this novel had stayed rooted in the past and left off the "present" day bits, but it's a small wistful comment and not a real complaint.

Over all it was very well done, the characters were well drawn, and I was so caught up that even I was caught a bit by surprise by Voyager's appearance in '96.
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Old August 4 2013, 09:26 PM   #30
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About 100 pages in. Finding it slow going.
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