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Old August 28 2013, 04:24 AM   #991
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

As to the casting there's only so much to be said. In the end, for lots of people it's about who they want to have sex with or who they want to grow up to be. These are touchy topics.

That said, I don't know why Bruce Wayne would need to be on screen.

If there's a script, that's the primary origin of the movie. Man of Steel had some pretty basic flaws, but it gave us an interesting Lois Lane we could believe an alien would also be interested in. If the sequel manages to repeat that, it won't be a complete disaster.

And that said, we do know that any fight between Superman and Batman is doomed to have no significant cause and even less significant effect. Heroes duking it out is so common precisely because it doesn't matter. This is not a good starting point.
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Old August 28 2013, 05:42 AM   #992
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Christopher Nolan Reportedly Leaves Batman Vs. Superman Over Ben Affleck Casting?
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Old August 28 2013, 05:44 AM   #993
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

Is anyone else getting the feeling that maybe Warner Bros. was expecting a very different reaction to Affleck's casting, given his recent successes?
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Old August 28 2013, 06:09 AM   #994
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Some people were also upset about Ed Norton being replaced by Mark Ruffalo--which clearly had a huge impact on THE AVENGERS.
There were quite a few boos at the convention where The Avengers assembled when Ruffalo was announced.

But let's be honest here, they could've cast Pee Wee Herman as Banner and the box office would've been the same.

Not a real story. That's some hack trying to connect two unrelated events.
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Old August 28 2013, 06:21 AM   #995
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

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Actor Matt Damon chimes in on his good friend Ben Affleck's decision to play Batman in the Man of Steel sequel, stating, "I think it will be great. It will be terrific. I know there are a lot of people grousing on the internet. I just think it's kind of funny." He continued, "You know, he's not playing King Lear. It's Batman! Certainly within his skill set. If anybody saw Argo or The Town, and all the work he's been doing lately, it's way more nuanced and interesting and way more difficult than Batman! Batman just sits there with his cowl over his head and whispers in a kinda gruff voice at people. Bruce Wayne is the more challenging part of the role, and Ben will be great at that."
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit.../news/?a=86071

This will not sit well with Batman fans.
That's awesome. Well spoken, Mat Damon.

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Some people were also upset about Ed Norton being replaced by Mark Ruffalo--which clearly had a huge impact on THE AVENGERS.
I was mostly upset because I thought Norton's performance in The Incredible Hulk was very good and in the vein of Bixby's performance, and I wanted to see more of it in The Avengers. I even agree with what he said about the film and his creative input, just not the way he acted afterwards. Alas.

In retrospect, ironically, I wish Mark Ruffalo was in The Incredible Hulk.
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Old August 28 2013, 06:22 AM   #996
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There were quite a few boos at the convention where The Avengers assembled when Ruffalo was announced.
Poor Ruffalo!

Ben Affleck better not show his face at Comic Con for the next few years!
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Old August 28 2013, 06:23 AM   #997
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Not a real story. That's some hack trying to connect two unrelated events.
Makes sense. Wasn't it already reported a long time ago that Nolan would have next to no involvement in the Man of Steel sequel? Even before Batman's presence in it was announced?
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Old August 28 2013, 07:39 AM   #998
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Is anyone else getting the feeling that maybe Warner Bros. was expecting a very different reaction to Affleck's casting, given his recent successes?
Internet blowhards were *always* going to shit the bed, don't confuse that with the reaction of normal people.
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Old August 28 2013, 03:33 PM   #999
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I wasn't happy about Ruffalo because I don't like recasting in general. He was great in The Avengers and I agree with Emh about wishing he was the original choice in place of Norton, but that's beside the point.
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Old August 28 2013, 03:57 PM   #1000
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

Yeah, I find that recast roles are very jarring to me as a viewer. The only exceptions are Doctor Who, and a recast where the actor is playing a much older or younger version of the character, like Obi-Wan Kenobi from the Star Wars prequels. I just hop that they do not recast someone like Tony Stark....
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Old August 28 2013, 04:11 PM   #1001
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I just hop that they do not recast someone like Tony Stark....
That will happen when RDJ eventually decides to stop playing Stark. They'll also recast the entire Iron Man supporting cast along with him.
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Old August 28 2013, 04:20 PM   #1002
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Comic-book characters are "recast" every time a new artist or writer takes over the series. It's the nature of such long-running characters that they get changed and reinterpreted.

And Ruffalo was definitely better than Norton, and tons better than Bana.
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Old August 28 2013, 04:24 PM   #1003
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Comic-book characters are "recast" every time a new artist or writer takes over the series. It's the nature of such long-running characters that they get changed and reinterpreted.

And Ruffalo was definitely better than Norton, and tons better than Bana.
RDJ might be the first actor to play a live action Tony Stark, doing a great job, but he won't be the last. I believe he will play the character until Avengers 3 and a new actor will be chosen to continue as Stark. There will be no reboot.

We have had multiple actors play Batman.
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Old August 28 2013, 04:33 PM   #1004
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

But will the new Iron Man be playing within the same continuity, or would it be a reboot of the franchise? I can't see them rebooting the franchise anytime soon, since they seem to introduce just about every major Marvel character .
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Old August 28 2013, 04:37 PM   #1005
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I don't mind recasting when it comes to remakes but I don't like it when it happens within a series. For example, I don't mind that different actors played James Bond over the decades but I don't like that Saavik got recast.

As for a future Marvel turnover, I probably won't mind if everyone gets recast and it feels like a fresh start even if it's the same continuity. I wasn't bothered by Stargate getting that sort of turnover when it went to series.
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