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Old August 26 2013, 01:33 PM   #901
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

I think the claim that Superman Returns had a 270 million budget is false. 60 million or so were spent on the Superman films that never got made.
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Old August 26 2013, 02:02 PM   #902
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Man of Steel is still a bigger success than Superman Returns. MoS with a production budget of $225 million. Returns which had a production budget of $270 million. SR marketing budget I couldn't find. However SR only grossed $391 million worldwide. The fact that MoS was confirmed for a sequel in the weeks following it's release at SDCC means that WB was satisfied with the money it was making. Plus there are still dvd and bluray sales to tally up come November.
If you recall, it had a huge drop-off in its second weekend, which I think was after the announcement. It's certainly a hit, certainly a bigger hit than SR, but it still fell short of their hopes. Luckily, WB have perhaps taken the view that, like Batman Begins, which was also viewed as not having a massive take, MOS' sequels are likely to prove more profitable.
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Old August 26 2013, 02:36 PM   #903
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I think the claim that Superman Returns had a 270 million budget is false. 60 million or so were spent on the Superman films that never got made.
Yes, that is how the figure was computed, by lumping in the money lost previously. It certainly doesn't look like it cost 270 million to make all by itself.
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Old August 26 2013, 02:51 PM   #904
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It's also a non sequitor. Just because Affleck was good in one movie doesn't mean he's good in ALL movies or that he fits the idea of a character with 60-70 years of history and iconism to him.
I'd say you're misreading the cartoon. It's not saying "Affleck will be a good Batman." It's poking fun at the inconsistency and fickleness of the fans, and the way "fan rage" willfully blinds itself to reasons for optimism or uncertainty.
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Old August 26 2013, 02:54 PM   #905
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The movie made 800,000,000 dollars world wide. How much bigger did they want it?
[dr.evil]One billion dollars.[/dr.evil]

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Bale's Batman voice still sounded like shit in TDK and TDKR. I wouldn't surprised if there was some "enhancing" going on in those movies too.
The even more distractingly silly mouth movements tell me that Bale was doing it naturally.
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Old August 26 2013, 02:55 PM   #906
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Interesting, insofar far as his voice as Batman was digitally enhanced to make it deeper and more menacing. So wasn't really his voice. It was a computer's voice
Your point?
Exactly what I said. Not sure why you seem to be treating it as a defense of Bale's voice.
Where did you hear that Keaton's voice was digitally enhanced? This is the first time I've heard something like this. It always sounded like he just lowered his voice to me.
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Old August 26 2013, 03:00 PM   #907
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^ I think he meant Bale, not Keaton (maybe that was a typo on your part too).

It seemed pretty apparent to me that his voice had some sort of modulation in TDK but I don't think he had it in either of the other movies; definitely not BB anyway.
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Old August 26 2013, 03:40 PM   #908
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Nolan wanted Wes Bentley (not Affleck) To Play BATMAN in MOS2

Bentley certainly has the look. It would have been interesting...

What do you guys think. Better than Affleck?
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Old August 26 2013, 03:41 PM   #909
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^ I think he meant Bale, not Keaton (maybe that was a typo on your part too).

It seemed pretty apparent to me that his voice had some sort of modulation in TDK but I don't think he had it in either of the other movies; definitely not BB anyway.
Yeah, Bale's voice in TDK and TDKR definitely sounded electronically altered to me; of course he was doing the growl himself, but it was further enhanced to sound deeper.
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Old August 26 2013, 03:48 PM   #910
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I know a writer for Cracked. While a humor site, he reports that they fact-check stuff like that fairly rigorously. Either way, it isn't the first time I've read about how MoS' budget was so high that the film wasnt as big a hit as you might think, just the most recent
I'm not disputing that Man of Steel was most likely a disappointment, but Cracked does not do the rigorous fact-checking that you believe they do. Plenty of their articles have huge glaring errors and the one you linked to is no exception. Not only does the writer forget that Hollywood lies about profits for accounting reasons, but he also tried to linearly extrapolate a graph based on 2 data points. That Fantastic Four graph is hilarious.
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Old August 26 2013, 04:04 PM   #911
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Nolan wanted Wes Bentley (not Affleck) To Play BATMAN in MOS2

Bentley certainly has the look. It would have been interesting...

What do you guys think. Better than Affleck?
Even though I do like Affleck as Batman, Bentley would have been a good choice too.

Many men can look the part. The question is, do they fit the the role in a way the director wants for the story? That remains to be seen.
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Old August 26 2013, 04:08 PM   #912
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Nolan wanted Wes Bentley (not Affleck) To Play BATMAN in MOS2

Bentley certainly has the look. It would have been interesting...

What do you guys think. Better than Affleck?
Someone else posted that a few days back (about a day or so before the Affleck story broke).

I'm pro-Affleck but I would probably have preferred Bentley (who Sony wanted to play Spider-man in Sam Raimi's movie - they allowed Raimi his preferred choice of Toby Maguire) if only because he brings less baggage and doesn't have a 'Wes Bentley persona' the way Affleck has a Ben Affleck one. Though I've a suspicion that the claim about Nolan wanting him arises solely because Bentley has been cast in Nolan's Interstellar.
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Old August 26 2013, 04:20 PM   #913
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

Anyone remember when Robert Downey Jr. was announced to play Tony Stark? Everyone went WTF but a few who knew his previous work said "Just wait.. this could be something".

Now it's impossible to think of Tony Stark and not see RDJ before you.. he just owned the role and made him possibly the most popular movie superhero.

I'm not saying Affleck will enjoy a similar success or be as perfect for the role but he is a good actor and it's worth giving it a shot. They are huge shoes after Bale and the Nolan movies but i'll be cautious to judge before i see the first pictures and scenes.
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Old August 26 2013, 04:21 PM   #914
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Nolan wanted Wes Bentley (not Affleck) To Play BATMAN in MOS2

Bentley certainly has the look. It would have been interesting...

What do you guys think. Better than Affleck?

No.

Edit: Mainly because I think Affleck Looks like Bruce Wayne and from the manips I have seen, looks like Batman in costume. Also I have been impressed by Affleck's recent work (Not saying he is Daniel Day Lewis, but I really feel he has improved). Affleck's emergence as a director/storyteller I believe might be a positive impact on his acting ability.

Not only that, but from the rumors that Affleck is all in the DC/WB universe, this will truly be exciting (Directing JLA/Solo Bat films). We are looking at Affleck taking the baton from Nolan in this regards.
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Old August 26 2013, 05:33 PM   #915
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We are looking at Affleck taking the baton from Nolan in this regards.
Taking the Bat-on? Heh.

The idea of him playing a directorial/creative role is encouraging, but it's hard to see how he could manage to oversee multiple films behind the camera and play one of the lead roles on-camera as well. He'd pretty much have to give up sleep altogether. Although that could be seen as a good way to become more like Batman...
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