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Old August 24 2013, 12:56 PM   #811
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Old August 24 2013, 01:33 PM   #812
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Affleck'll crush it. He's got the chops, he's got the chin -- just needs the material. Affleck & Cavill toe to toe -- I'm in.
The problem there is "just needs the material." The issue isn't Affleck; we know he's capable of doing good work in the right circumstances. The issue is Snyder and Goyer and the folks at DC Entertainment making the decisions, and they're the ones I lack confidence in.
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Old August 24 2013, 01:49 PM   #813
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^On that note, given that Affleck allegedly turned down the chance to direct MOS and Justice League, as well as saying he never wanted to play a superhero again, I wonder if they gave him a guarantee of creative input or veto in order to secure his agreement. Given that any one of his 3 movies as director are better than any of Snyder's (or Goyer's movies as director, for that matter), I certainly hope so.
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Old August 24 2013, 01:59 PM   #814
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I've been reflecting on this and I don't think any of the film actors portraying DC's Batman have been close to my interpretation of him in the books and comics I've read. Burton, Kilmer, Clooney and yes, even the mighty Bale gave interesting interpretations of Batman but never really delivered to me in my mind what Batman was truly all about. So here's another stab at it and I certainly welcome that.

Not a fan of Affleck as he's a difficult character actor to like (comes off as pompous and arrogant in such a way that it's impossible for me to 'root' for him as a protagonist) and Batman (superheroes in general) are usually in a character-driven story so I don't see him besting any before him. It seems impossible, actually. Unless the premise is that he's a bad guy this time around and that would also bring considerable fan backlash, so much that it might solidify Affleck as Evil Bats. But with Justice League coming, probably not.

He will share the title role so maybe there will be a lot more Bats in this film than expected. I'd read rumors that train loads of money were being prepared for Sir Bale to appear for twenty minutes of the film and that didn't smell right.

Plot driven Affleck, yes. He was really enjoyable in Argo. Hype will most certainly build from now until the film's release. Given what's happened this summer with Depp's Tonto, it appears movie audiences are no longer content to actually see a film before deciding if it was a piece of shit or not. And that's a shame.

Some have said that the real choice for Affleck would have been to direct and I agree... but that current mock-up going around of Affleck in the Bat mask is not too bad and piques my interest. This should be really interesting. I wonder how much this will be discussed in next year's The Big Bang Theory... I can hear Sheldon complaining already.
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Old August 24 2013, 02:18 PM   #815
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billcosby wrote:
I'd read rumors that train loads of money were being prepared for Sir Bale to appear for twenty minutes of the film and that didn't smell right.
Has this ever been confirmed by Bale's reps anywhere? Because it sounds like the usual fanboy wishful thinking.
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Old August 24 2013, 02:20 PM   #816
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I only hope Cavill continues to get first billing in MOS2. I worry that Affleck will be taking it away from him since he is the "bigger" actor.
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Old August 24 2013, 02:22 PM   #817
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Alphabetical order?
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Old August 24 2013, 02:27 PM   #818
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Alphabetical order?
Does Amy Adams ring a bell? She wasn't billed first in MOS.
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Old August 24 2013, 02:28 PM   #819
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I only hope Cavill continues to get first billing in MOS2. I worry that Affleck will be taking it away from him since he is the "bigger" actor.
My gut tells me that Affleck is getting top billing as the bigger name and because Batman is bigger draw at the B.O. than Superman to date.

OTOH, Brando and Hackman got billing over Reeve and that didn't stop Reeve from making the role his own for decades.

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Affleck'll crush it. He's got the chops, he's got the chin -- just needs the material. Affleck & Cavill toe to toe -- I'm in.
The problem there is "just needs the material." The issue isn't Affleck; we know he's capable of doing good work in the right circumstances. The issue is Snyder and Goyer and the folks at DC Entertainment making the decisions, and they're the ones I lack confidence in.
This. I really hope we're not up for another Clooney: a talented actor/director who has the chops and look to play the best Batman ever, saddled with a poor script and a director less talented than he is.
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Old August 24 2013, 02:29 PM   #820
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I never thought of the Adams point. She'd end up ahead of Affleck if they credited the movie like that!

I think it'll probably be a bit like McQueen and Newman in The Towering Inferno. One will come first but the other name will be more highly placed in the poster and onscreen.
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Old August 24 2013, 02:35 PM   #821
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I love Sucker Punch and thought Man of Steel was good despite its needlessly grim, serious approach. Am cautiously optimistic about the Batman and Superman film, although I doubt it'll be as good as the Adam West film, the Burton films, or the first 2 Nolan films.
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Old August 24 2013, 02:44 PM   #822
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In fairness to Affleck, I've just looked at his IMDB page and he's taken lower billing in a few movies - State of Play, Shakespeare in Love, Chasing Aces, Hollywoodland and others. So I don't think he'll be egotistical about wanting top billing in what still seems to be a superman sequel.
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Old August 24 2013, 02:56 PM   #823
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I only hope Cavill continues to get first billing in MOS2. I worry that Affleck will be taking it away from him since he is the "bigger" actor.
In Superman: The Movie, Christopher Reeve had third billing after Brando and Hackman.
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Old August 24 2013, 03:00 PM   #824
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I only hope Cavill continues to get first billing in MOS2. I worry that Affleck will be taking it away from him since he is the "bigger" actor.
In Superman: The Movie, Christopher Reeve had third billing after Brando and Hackman.
Yes, I know. I was only talking about MOS2.

I'm pretty surprised Russell Crowe wasn't the first billed in MOS since he was obviously the biggest star. Although, I guess he was happy with the "and" credit, which is considered nearly equal to first billing.
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Old August 24 2013, 03:21 PM   #825
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Well, what I was going for is that billing isn't really about importance to the story, it's about how much you get paid and how good your agent is. It's a business matter and not something the audience should read too much into. If an actor is visibly the most important character in the movie, they'll be remembered as the star no matter where their name falls in the credits.
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