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Old August 24 2013, 02:38 AM   #796
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

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In declaring the fanboys "consistently and always wrong", they cite Heath Ledger, Daniel Craig, and the Star Trek reboot.
Ledger was good. Craig is too ugly and unrefined for Bond, though he nails the physicality. And the Star Trek reboot was crap.
If financial success denotes high quality, Brittainy Spears is the pinnacle of musical achievement.
Craig's performance as Bond is based on the literary character not the previously established movie roles. Craig knows how Bond was written and plays that rather than trying to rip of Roger Moore as Brosnan did. Dalton took the same approach in the eighties, and License to Kill was a good film--but it wasn't the Bond people wanted.

Ledger was good, but his performance was not worth dying over...and the movie itself was a let down.

And I agree with you that people need to stop equating financial success with quality. I was never a Michael Jackson fan, but I get angry when people equate somebody like Spears with him. Jackson was an artistic and financial genius, even if he completely messed up his personal life.
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Old August 24 2013, 02:39 AM   #797
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Star Trek is as close to TOS as it gets. The real TOS from the 60s, not the nostalgic fantasy TOS from some fans' memories.
NuTrek is unlike TOS at all, other than "in name only."

Even the TOS "tribute"/flashback episodes of DS9 & Enterprise captured TOS more than anything in NuTrek--and it was more than TOS trappings.
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Old August 24 2013, 02:45 AM   #798
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

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Star Trek is as close to TOS as it gets. The real TOS from the 60s, not the nostalgic fantasy TOS from some fans' memories.
NuTrek is unlike TOS at all, other than "in name only."

Even the TOS "tribute"/flashback episodes of DS9 & Enterprise captured TOS more than anything in NuTrek--and it was more than TOS trappings.
Been watching the shows and films and reading the books since the 60s. In this beholders eyes it is. While I enjoyed the flashbacks in DS9 and ENT they didn't quite capture the feel I got from TOS in the 60s and 70s.
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Old August 24 2013, 02:45 AM   #799
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Man of Steel wasn't realistic, it was more 'grounded' and 'serious' then the previous films, but not 'realistic.' This means within the more grounded and serious universe of Man of Steel which has a world that at least on some level resembles our own it eschews the more hokier, lighthearted elements of some of the comics and the previous flicks. It was a more modernized version of the character that placed importance on humanizing the him and giving the viewer a window into his psyche in order to make the character resonate with the viewer. Steel does this by giving you a glimpse of the introspective crisis of alienation so this way you can put yourself into the character's shoes and feel for him. To paraphrase what Nolan said in regards to the tone of his Bat-flicks it's ''relatable'' but not realistic---Man of Steel is no different.

If you folks want something that is close to a ''realistic'' Superman go check out Superman Secret Identity.
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Old August 24 2013, 02:46 AM   #800
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Ok, I have no idea how acurate a site cosmicbooknews.com is, but I figured I'd post this article anyway.

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/con...trong-sinestro

Even if this isn't true, and thats very possible, its an interesting idea that I'd never considered. I've never seen Breaking Bad (I only really know Cranston from malcom in the Middle and various cameos on shows like Seinfeld), but I think bald Bryan cranston could look like Luthor (if you got rid of the goatee and glasses from the pics I've seen of him bald in breaking bad) plus he's always seemed like a decent actor.
If this is true, I think Cranston would be exellent as Luthor, but I'm not really sure I want the same older Luthor. Every Luthor in the movies has been older and while I think Cranston would be absolutely perfect, especially after Breaking Bad, but I don't know what I want in Luthor this time. I certainly don't want a Luthor that comes up with real estate schemes. I do want to see Luthor in the power suit though. I know this would never happen, but I'd love to see Rosenboum as Luthor again. But, yeah, Cranston would negate my feelings against Afleck for sure.
I want a Luthor who is not the main villain, who may be a foil of some sort who is set up for the following movie, but we have had way too much Luthor in the movies already. Time for something new: Brainiac, Darkseid, a few Rogues...
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Old August 24 2013, 02:49 AM   #801
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

TREK_GOD_1 wrote: View Post
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Star Trek is as close to TOS as it gets. The real TOS from the 60s, not the nostalgic fantasy TOS from some fans' memories.
NuTrek is unlike TOS at all, other than "in name only."

Even the TOS "tribute"/flashback episodes of DS9 & Enterprise captured TOS more than anything in NuTrek--and it was more than TOS trappings.
DS9 was the series that most closely captured the spirit of the original series when it wanted to.

Both nu Trek stories could have been set up by adolescent fan boys playing a Trek RPG in their basement.
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Old August 24 2013, 02:51 AM   #802
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

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I mean, what's next, Indiana Jones finds Bigfoot
Well, after the plot of #4, Indiana Jones is starting to become Indiana the Night Stalker...



Anikan Skywalker's Ghost fights Darth Maul's Ghost in Episode 7?
Unfortunately, that is exactly the kind of material a studio would place before cameras as it caters to the worst of SW fanwank geekdom (IOW, "ooh! lightsaber fights!").
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Old August 24 2013, 04:14 AM   #803
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Old August 24 2013, 06:26 AM   #804
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theenglish wrote: View Post
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Nerys Myk wrote: View Post
Star Trek is as close to TOS as it gets. The real TOS from the 60s, not the nostalgic fantasy TOS from some fans' memories.
NuTrek is unlike TOS at all, other than "in name only."

Even the TOS "tribute"/flashback episodes of DS9 & Enterprise captured TOS more than anything in NuTrek--and it was more than TOS trappings.
DS9 was the series that most closely captured the spirit of the original series when it wanted to.

Both nu Trek stories could have been set up by adolescent fan boys playing a Trek RPG in their basement.
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I mean, what's next, Indiana Jones finds Bigfoot
Well, after the plot of #4, Indiana Jones is starting to become Indiana the Night Stalker...



Anikan Skywalker's Ghost fights Darth Maul's Ghost in Episode 7?
Unfortunately, that is exactly the kind of material a studio would place before cameras as it caters to the worst of SW fanwank geekdom (IOW, "ooh! lightsaber fights!").
Yeah, I know, that's why I chose that as an example of a horrible movie. Studio execs often take the wrong message from successful movies. As it was pointed out, maybe by you, that looking at RDJ, as the prime example of why an older superhero works. They believe audiences think, "cool, a charismatic character who's portrayed by a charismatic actor". Yes, that is part of it, but as we've seen, Marvel takes care to be involved with how the character is written. They try to stick to the basic characteristics of Tony Stark. Yes, it may not be a direct correlation from comic book to screen, but they obviously do care what fans think and not just the general audience. Maybe their bottom line is money, but could they make the same money by shiting on the character? Maybe they could, but also you are starting to have inside men that are our age and grew up with this shit as well, so in a weird way, we have representatives within the business, much like we did with Serenity.
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Old August 24 2013, 07:06 AM   #805
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Joss Whedon tweets support for Ben Affleck as Batman

Affleck'll crush it. He's got the chops, he's got the chin -- just needs the material. Affleck & Cavill toe to toe -- I'm in.
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Old August 24 2013, 07:17 AM   #806
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I'm reminded of this song.

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Old August 24 2013, 08:56 AM   #807
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Now will Damon play Robin...



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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

theenglish wrote: View Post
Chuck Finley wrote: View Post
kirk55555 wrote: View Post
Ok, I have no idea how acurate a site cosmicbooknews.com is, but I figured I'd post this article anyway.

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/con...trong-sinestro

Even if this isn't true, and thats very possible, its an interesting idea that I'd never considered. I've never seen Breaking Bad (I only really know Cranston from malcom in the Middle and various cameos on shows like Seinfeld), but I think bald Bryan cranston could look like Luthor (if you got rid of the goatee and glasses from the pics I've seen of him bald in breaking bad) plus he's always seemed like a decent actor.
If this is true, I think Cranston would be exellent as Luthor, but I'm not really sure I want the same older Luthor. Every Luthor in the movies has been older and while I think Cranston would be absolutely perfect, especially after Breaking Bad, but I don't know what I want in Luthor this time. I certainly don't want a Luthor that comes up with real estate schemes. I do want to see Luthor in the power suit though. I know this would never happen, but I'd love to see Rosenboum as Luthor again. But, yeah, Cranston would negate my feelings against Afleck for sure.
I want a Luthor who is not the main villain, who may be a foil of some sort who is set up for the following movie, but we have had way too much Luthor in the movies already. Time for something new: Brainiac, Darkseid, a few Rogues...
If true, I think Cranston would make a very good Lex Luthor. Plus, he's worked with Affleck before (Argo), so hopefully that'll assure the slightly-better-acting Affleck will show up for this film (considering Affleck was fairly good in that film).
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Old August 24 2013, 09:15 AM   #809
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I'd prefer to see Cranston as Jim Gordon.
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Old August 24 2013, 12:36 PM   #810
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TREK_GOD_1 wrote:
(IOW, "ooh! lightsaber fights!").
You have a problem with seeing lightsaber fights in Star Wars?

I assume you have the same problem with seeing swordfights in jidai-geki films?

How about phasers in Star Trek?
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