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Old July 20 2013, 11:41 PM   #61
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^Why not? Superman was made to look pretty bad in MoS.
Superman in MoS is like Kirk and co. in Trek '09--inexperienced and finding his way. I was not expecting him to be the master of the situation. I expected what I got--someone who is facing a crisis beyond anything in his imagination. Of course he's going to rely on the help and direction of others who have more knowledge of such things. As Kirk said to Saavik once, "we learn by doing". I expect his experience with killing Zod is what bars him from killing again. I expect his experience with facing a military-style threat will get him to bear down and study (off-camera--no need to see this happen before the next film). I expect he will reflect on what he did and seek to do a better job next time. What I did not expect, given it is an origin and introduction story, was a fully realized Superman who hits all the "right beats" from the get go. That would have been boring.

The same applies to Kirk and Co. in the Abrams films. I don't expect the fully actualized, confident Kirk of TOS.

Oops. Just realized I was in the Superman/Batman thread. On topic: As I very much enjoyed both MoS and the Dark Knight trilogy, I feel reasonably confident about this project.

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Old July 20 2013, 11:49 PM   #62
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Well I loved Man of Steel and I loved the Superman/Batman animated films, so I am very much looking forward to this film.
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Old July 20 2013, 11:53 PM   #63
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Casting for Batman should be announced pretty soon given the schedule they're looking at for this film. Cavill and Armie Hammer are due to shoot Man from UNCLE in the fall. I wonder if we'll see the two of them move straight on to Superman/Batman thereafter.
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Old July 20 2013, 11:59 PM   #64
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Considering we're just coming off of a complete Batman trilogy, it's the right approach. Keep things moving, don't clutter things up by doing unnecessary set-up films.
Yeah, the more this sinks in, the more it makes sense. Doing yet another Batman movie so soon didn't feel right and maybe they saw that too. This is a good strategy. I do hope though that people here are right and that this really is a Man of Steel sequel that just happens to incorporate Batman. I want to see this version of Superman explored a little more and not get sidelined too much by a World's Finest/Justice League story.
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Old July 21 2013, 12:27 AM   #65
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As much as I'd like to see it happen, the Nolan-verse isn't going to be continued as part of a wider live-action DCU. As per Emma Thomas:
Whilst our Dark Knight trilogy is complete, we have every confidence that Zack’s fresh interpretation will take the character in a new and exciting direction.
Regarding whether or not this is a Man of Steel sequel that just so happens to involve Batman, the feeling I've gotten from the various reports I've read is that such is indeed the case.
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Old July 21 2013, 12:32 AM   #66
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Snyder referred to it as a Superman sequel at the Comic-Con panel.
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Old July 21 2013, 12:42 AM   #67
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

I feel a bit mixed about this. While I would love to see a Superman & Batman movie, I would have liked at least one more solo Superman movie before they teamed him up with Batman.

But I am open to it. Can't wait to see who they ast as Batman.
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Old July 21 2013, 12:48 AM   #68
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If they do this, I hope they will consider my favorite Batman actor, Kevin Porter.

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Old July 21 2013, 12:53 AM   #69
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Old July 21 2013, 12:55 AM   #70
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Press release says Cavill, Adams, Lane and Fishburne are confirmed to return and that a new Batman will be cast. Here's the logo they showed at Comic-Con.
Interesting. Will they be using the Nolan Batman continuity, with a new actor, or set up something else? Seems strange to jump in with a new continuity for Batman without setting it up in its own story, but at the same time the Nolanverse really doesn't have room for a magic flying alien.
Honestly, I don't think they really need a new movie to set up a new Batman. At this point, most of the world knows the basics: Wayne Manor, Alfred, Bat-Cave, dead parents, etc.

If, in the new movie, Superman visits Gotham City and a mysterious stranger in a bat-suit emerges from the shadows, I doubt if anyone in the audience is going to wonder, "Hey, who is this Batman dude? What's his story?"
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Old July 21 2013, 12:57 AM   #71
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I would love it if the film featured the John Blake Batman and was thus a sequel to both The Dark Knight Rises and Man of Steel.
So would I. Even if that were to happen, would general audiences ever buy someone other than Bruce Wayne as Batman? Which is why I don't think I'll ever see a live-action Batman Beyond film.
Although TDKR sets up a hypothetical Batman Beyond movie pretty well, with Blake in the McGinnis role...
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Old July 21 2013, 01:03 AM   #72
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This is a terrible idea. I may be in the minority, but this doesn't encourage me at all. Batman coming on the scene before Superman is a fully actualized character bodes ill for the movie. It screams more CGI action and limited character development. If Batman is cast wrong, even worse.

This idea needed to come after the MOS sequel. Superman could really be overshadowed by the Batman character. I don't trust the MOS writers to balance anything in terms of story. It screams "gimmick!" Then again, I've never been someone clamoring for a justice league movie. It's all just a little too precious.
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Old July 21 2013, 01:07 AM   #73
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They won't.
I know, and that's too bad. He's a really good Batman.

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Old July 21 2013, 01:10 AM   #74
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I would love it if the film featured the John Blake Batman and was thus a sequel to both The Dark Knight Rises and Man of Steel.
So would I. Even if that were to happen, would general audiences ever buy someone other than Bruce Wayne as Batman? Which is why I don't think I'll ever see a live-action Batman Beyond film.
Although TDKR sets up a hypothetical Batman Beyond movie pretty well, with Blake in the McGinnis role...
Honestly, if we're finally getting a Superman/Batman movie, I think it needs to be Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne. That's what people are going to want to see.

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Old July 21 2013, 01:10 AM   #75
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

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Press release says Cavill, Adams, Lane and Fishburne are confirmed to return and that a new Batman will be cast. Here's the logo they showed at Comic-Con.
Interesting. Will they be using the Nolan Batman continuity, with a new actor, or set up something else? Seems strange to jump in with a new continuity for Batman without setting it up in its own story, but at the same time the Nolanverse really doesn't have room for a magic flying alien.
Honestly, I don't think they really need a new movie to set up a new Batman. At this point, most of the world knows the basics: Wayne Manor, Alfred, Bat-Cave, dead parents, etc.

If, in the new movie, Superman visits Gotham City and a mysterious stranger in a bat-suit emerges from the shadows, I doubt if anyone in the audience is going to wonder, "Hey, who is this Batman dude? What's his story?"
Exactly. If Snyder, Goyer, Nolan, ect; feel the need to put their own stamp on Batman's origins for this new continuity, they can holdout for the eventual solo movie. It wouldn't well serve the pacing of a team-up movie to diverge away from the movie's main story for however long it takes to give the audience information that it essentially already knows.
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