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Old July 29 2014, 09:19 PM   #3196
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

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Is the reason not that Krypton was poisoned or contaminated before being destroyed and that's why it's fatal to him?
Kryptonite is radioactive. It's just that the radiation it produces effects Kryptonians much more drastically than humans. Presumably, it's a naturally occurring mineral on Krypton, just as there are naturally occurring radioactive minerals here on Earth.

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Maybe the first Kryptonians on Earth (whose spacecraft was discovered by Kal-El in MoS) had something to do with the creation of Kryptonite.
Maybe they used it to power their engines. Wasn't there something in MOS about the Kryptonians depleting their natural resources? Maybe they were mining it for fuel.


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There could be any number of handwavium explanations for how Kryptonite works in the MOS - verse, but artificially re-creating the Kryptonian atmosphere seems the most in-line with what was established in MOS.
Agreed. I'd much rather Batman find a way to either recreate the Kryptonian atmosphere (perhaps by reverse-engineering a generator from one of the ships) or generate radiation similar to that of a red sun to cancel out Superman's powers.

Even if you can find a way to plausibly explain it, kryptonite has just been done to death by this point, and I'm really hoping they don't use it.
I don't know, a radioactive mineral seems a lot more "grounded" to me than Lex Luthor or Batman inventing something that magically recreates the atmosphere of Krypton.
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Old July 30 2014, 02:33 AM   #3197
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My question is this: If Krypton's atmosphere kept Kryptonion's powerless, how or why would the sun factor into it at all? And shouldn't they have been on death's door on Krypton if a yellow sun is needed to charge them up while their atmosphere keeps them tuned down?

It don't make no sense.
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Old July 30 2014, 03:35 AM   #3198
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

I haven't been on here since the WW costume reveal, so I just want to say that I love. I think it's honestly as close to her comic book outfit as we could possibly get in a movie like this.
As for the Krytonite debate, I don't know if I really like the idea of it being artifical. I like the idea of connecting it to the old ship. I could be a naturally occurring mineral on their homeworld that they were studying. I could see a big dramatic reveal with either Bruce Wayne or Lex Luthor digging around in the ship, and suddenly coming across a big collection of Kryptonite.
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Old July 30 2014, 12:46 PM   #3199
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Dawn of Justice destruction spoilers. Looks like Metrpolis is head for more chaos.

http://batman-news.com/2014/07/29/ma...ustice-photos/
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Old July 30 2014, 05:36 PM   #3200
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Poor Metropolis. At some point I'm expecting the city to erect a "Keep Out Superman" sign to prevent any more damage/mayhem.
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Old July 30 2014, 05:55 PM   #3201
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Well hopefully they're at least destroying a different area of the city this time. Because it would suck if they just destroyed the exact same area that just got rebuilt.
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Old July 30 2014, 05:56 PM   #3202
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It's weird to me that you all care so much what happens to fictional unnamed characters who only really exist as a backdrop to highlight the level of danger.
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Old July 30 2014, 06:25 PM   #3203
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

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Dawn of Justice destruction spoilers. Looks like Metrpolis is head for more chaos.

http://batman-news.com/2014/07/29/ma...ustice-photos/
Whoever did that I'm sure Superman will throw him through an inhabited skyscraper - that'll teach him!

(and anyone unfortunate enough to be inside)
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Old July 30 2014, 07:13 PM   #3204
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Looks like Doomsday stepped on all those cars.
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Old July 30 2014, 09:10 PM   #3205
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It's weird to me that you all care so much what happens to fictional unnamed characters who only really exist as a backdrop to highlight the level of danger.
Same here. Especially after years of people complaining that there was no Superman movie that had big, comic book style action. This kind of thing is a monthly occurrence in the comics.
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Old July 30 2014, 09:22 PM   #3206
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^Exactly.
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Old July 30 2014, 09:34 PM   #3207
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And buildings were regularly toppled during superhero battles on the Animated Series as well (with no sign of an evacuation beforehand there either).

I certainly think the destruction went a bit overboard towards the end of MOS, but it also seemed clear that this was a war between superbeings and the future of the entire planet was being decided (and not just one city). So obviously there has to be a bit of allowance for that, I think.
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Old July 30 2014, 09:47 PM   #3208
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One--it's a comic book story. Destruction (and vast, unmentioned, loss of life) abounds.

Two--Superman was on his FIRST DAY ON THE JOB. Against something a bit more powerful than some bank robbers fleeing the scene in a 1938 Ford with tommy guns as weapons.

Three--It appears that much (not all) of the complaining directed at MoS over the "destruction" stems from the fact that these particular filmmakers chose not to portray Superman in a Silver Age/Christopher Reeve style. I like Silver Age comics. I have a bunch of them and I read them with my 8 year old son. I also like the Reeve Superman films (well, the first two, anyway) and have watched them with my 8 year old son (who also likes them). But I can appreciate a different take on the character--one I will not watch with my son until he's a lot older than 8 years old. Much rather that than simply "lather, rinse, repeat" of Silver Age/Reeve Superman. But, different strokes for different folks.

I don't care that some people were disappointed with MoS. Taste in film is subjective. But I do object to arguments that state or imply there's only one "right way" to portray Superman. A lot (again, not all) of the complaints about MoS seem to have that perspective. Such people should probably just skip the movies made by filmmakers who diverge from that approach. Probably better for their blood pressure.
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Old July 30 2014, 10:06 PM   #3209
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Three--It appears that much (not all) of the complaining directed at MoS over the "destruction" stems from the fact that these particular filmmakers chose not to portray Superman in a Silver Age/Christopher Reeve style. I like Silver Age comics. I have a bunch of them and I read them with my 8 year old son. I also like the Reeve Superman films (well, the first two, anyway) and have watched them with my 8 year old son (who also likes them). But I can appreciate a different take on the character--one I will not watch with my son until he's a lot older than 8 years old. Much rather that than simply "lather, rinse, repeat" of Silver Age/Reeve Superman. But, different strokes for different folks.
You've likely hit upon something there with me, anyway. I looked forward to taking my kids to see MoS. I wanted them to enjoy it as much, or more, as they had Superman Returns - particularly sequences like the airplane rescue.

After watching MoS I realized they probably wouldn't enjoy it but for a few minutes here and there. It wasn't what I expected and that certainly colored my reaction.

Personally it seemed to me the battle at the end was reaching disaster porn levels rather than being grittier or some new take - but that's my opinion.
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Old July 30 2014, 10:39 PM   #3210
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It's similar to the way I've watched the Batman (1966) movie with my son but will not show him the Nolan films for a few more years yet (though all his friends seem to have seen them--not sure what the parents are thinking, but as I tell my kids, I'm parenting them, not everyone else and they have to live with it ).

I get that not everyone likes the MoS take on Superman. My approach to comic films is to watch them without my kids first and then deciding if I think they're ready for them. They've watched Superman and Superman II, Superman Returns and Batman (1966). My daughter is probably ready for the Spider-Man films (Raimi and Webb) but has shown no interest. My son is a couple of years away from those and a bit more away from the Iron Man/Capt. America/Thor/Hulk/Avengers saga. Lately we've focused on animated stuff (Green Lantern is his current favourite there) but even that, we watch together. I don't leave him alone with anything I think might be too dark and violent for a kid whose age is counted in single digits. But that's me.
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