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Old July 14 2014, 10:23 AM   #2941
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

So, on Saturday, the movie's cinematographer Larry Fong tweeted a pic of its on-set photographer Clay Enos, referring to a 'fun, historic day.' Now, what might he have been photographing that was so historic? The first time that a live-action big screen Superman, Batman and Wonder-Woman (or maybe just two out of the three) were onset together perhaps? With comic-con approaching, that's my bet.

http://batman-news.com/2014/07/12/hi...n-photo-shoot/
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Old July 14 2014, 12:51 PM   #2942
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

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They were merged early on though. The first issue of All-Star Comics to star the JSA came out in 1940.
Superman and Batman were barely, if at all, part of the merged JSA universe and, even among members of the JSA, continuity was far from as tightly woven as it was at even early Marvel
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Old July 14 2014, 01:31 PM   #2943
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

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They were merged early on though. The first issue of All-Star Comics to star the JSA came out in 1940.
Superman and Batman were barely, if at all, part of the merged JSA universe and, even among members of the JSA, continuity was far from as tightly woven as it was at even early Marvel
Didn't say they were, just that many of DCs major characters shared a book/universe. Superman, Batman and Robin were mentioned in the first JSA tale and appeared twice. Though by the early 50s Superman and Batman were hanging out together on a regular basis in World's Finest as best friends.

Early Marvel had the advantage of Stan Lee writing or editing every book, but like I said there were some glitches.
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Old July 14 2014, 01:44 PM   #2944
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

In the Golden Age and even Silver Age, the "feel" of DC comics was that the characters each lived in their own world when they weren't specifically sharing a team-up book. There wasn't a lot of sharing of characters or concepts between titles. Marvel upped the ante by developing what felt like a shared universe.

Golden Age DC continuity was particularly odd, as when characters teamed up (such as the first JSA story in All-Star #3, or the Boy Commandos story in which other Simon/Kirby characters made cameos), the names of the books that they regularly appeared in tended to get name-dropped in-story--"Sandman, what are you doing here? Aren't you supposed to be in Adventure Comics?"

It's also worth noting that the Golden Age JSA stories were even structured as groups of solo tales with framing devices involving the assembled team.
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Old July 14 2014, 02:02 PM   #2945
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As I said, DC was a more complicated set up. In the Golden Age, even more so. Not only were there different editors for different books, but there were two companies producing the books: DC/national and All-American. The JSA, Wonder Woman Woman, Green Lantern and Flash ( to name a few ) were All American characters, while Batman and Superman were DC. There was a time when AA had a dispute with DC and a JSA story was redrawn to replace some DC characters with AA ones. That's how Wildcat and Mr Terrific became JSA members.

In the Silver Age the revival characters were the AA ones: Flash, Green Lantern, Hawkman and the Atom. Probably because Julie Schwartz edited All Star Comics in the 40s and 50s.
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In the Golden Age and even Silver Age, the "feel" of DC comics was that the characters each lived in their own world when they weren't specifically sharing a team-up book. There wasn't a lot of sharing of characters or concepts between titles. Marvel upped the ante by developing what felt like a shared universe.
True, but you still have to start somewhere. And having crossovers of any kind between characters like Superman and Batman must have been pretty mindblowing back then. And was surely what got the ball rolling with concepts like the JLA and Avengers.
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Old July 14 2014, 06:35 PM   #2947
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Early Marvel had the advantage of Stan Lee writing or editing every book, but like I said there were some glitches.
Like if you got super powers from a nuclear reactor going wonky, or aliens zapping you, people thought it was awesome.

But if you just happened to be born with them you should be put in a Nazisish death camp and giant purple robots should roam the earth trying to exterminate you no matter how many times you save their sorry asses from super villains.
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Old July 15 2014, 12:35 AM   #2948
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None can deny the historical contributions of both companies...the companies that became DC invented the super-hero team, but 1960s Marvel better developed the concept of the shared universe.

Also in Marvel's corner, Timely had the Human Torch fighting the Sub-Mariner earlier in the year that All-Star #3 came out.
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Old July 15 2014, 01:07 AM   #2949
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

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In the Golden Age and even Silver Age, the "feel" of DC comics was that the characters each lived in their own world when they weren't specifically sharing a team-up book. There wasn't a lot of sharing of characters or concepts between titles. Marvel upped the ante by developing what felt like a shared universe.
True, but you still have to start somewhere. And having crossovers of any kind between characters like Superman and Batman must have been pretty mindblowing back then. And was surely what got the ball rolling with concepts like the JLA and Avengers.
*sigh* Didn't you get the memo? Marvel invented everything, and were the first ones to do anything in comics that had any lasting value. Anyone else who does the same thing is just following the leader (even if they did it first).

Marvel is the Howard Stern of the comic book world.
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Old July 15 2014, 02:28 AM   #2950
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None can deny the historical contributions of both companies...the companies that became DC invented the super-hero team, but 1960s Marvel better developed the concept of the shared universe.

Also in Marvel's corner, Timely had the Human Torch fighting the Sub-Mariner earlier in the year that All-Star #3 came out.
Timely invented the comic book anti-hero and the two heroes fight concept.
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