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Old July 3 2014, 08:31 PM   #2731
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

Really digging the new photo. Supes looks awesome. Although we have seen this style of promo before....

Lol Gotham is shitty city.
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Old July 3 2014, 08:33 PM   #2732
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I doubt it's intended to be representative of the entire film. It's likely just the first of many many promo shots for the movie that will be released over the next year, and one used to tease the idea of Superman visiting the darker world of Gotham.
Except we already have a full movie's worth of evidence that these filmmakers do not want Superman to be fun, bright, optimistic, or inspiring in any way. And plenty of other evidence that DC as a company believes it has to be as dark and grim as possible in virtually everything it does.
I was hoping that due to the negative reviews and (relatively speaking) middling box office return for Man of Steel that Synder would reign in his dark and gritty tendencies, but this photo isn't encouraging.
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Old July 3 2014, 08:42 PM   #2733
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I doubt it's intended to be representative of the entire film. It's likely just the first of many many promo shots for the movie that will be released over the next year, and one used to tease the idea of Superman visiting the darker world of Gotham.
Except we already have a full movie's worth of evidence that these filmmakers do not want Superman to be fun, bright, optimistic, or inspiring in any way. And plenty of other evidence that DC as a company believes it has to be as dark and grim as possible in virtually everything it does.
I was hoping that due to the negative reviews and (relatively speaking) middling box office return for Man of Steel that Synder would reign in his dark and gritty tendencies, but this photo isn't encouraging.
"Middling box office return"? MOS was one of the top 5 grossing films in 2013. MOS also sold more copies on home video than IM3. The film was a success. Why do people keep trying to spin MOS as some sort of financial failure?
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Old July 3 2014, 09:06 PM   #2734
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Except we already have a full movie's worth of evidence that these filmmakers do not want Superman to be fun, bright, optimistic, or inspiring in any way. And plenty of other evidence that DC as a company believes it has to be as dark and grim as possible in virtually everything it does.
I was hoping that due to the negative reviews and (relatively speaking) middling box office return for Man of Steel that Synder would reign in his dark and gritty tendencies, but this photo isn't encouraging.
"Middling box office return"? MOS was one of the top 5 grossing films in 2013. MOS also sold more copies on home video than IM3. The film was a success. Why do people keep trying to spin MOS as some sort of financial failure?
Often the same reason some people do this with new Trek--they didn't like it, so it must be a failure in every way (even in those ways where it really isn't--to do otherwise would diminish their certainty that they're right to not like the film).

I loved MOS (I like it better each time I watch it), so I'm very much looking forward to the next movie.
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Old July 3 2014, 09:17 PM   #2735
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"Middling box office return"? MOS was one of the top 5 grossing films in 2013. MOS also sold more copies on home video than IM3. The film was a success. Why do people keep trying to spin MOS as some sort of financial failure?
Read the text in the parenthesis in my post. I never said that the film failed, but it made far less money than it should have.
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Old July 3 2014, 09:34 PM   #2736
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Perhaps, but given that it was a reboot, and given the lack of interest shown by the public in the previous Superman movie (and arguably the character as a whole in the last 20 years), I'd say $668 million worldwide is pretty damn impressive for MOS. Especially compared to SR's $391 worldwide.

And regardless of their original expectations, I have to imagine WB realized the same thing.
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Old July 3 2014, 09:37 PM   #2737
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"Middling box office return"? MOS was one of the top 5 grossing films in 2013. MOS also sold more copies on home video than IM3. The film was a success. Why do people keep trying to spin MOS as some sort of financial failure?
Read the text in the parenthesis in my post. I never said that the film failed, but it made far less money than it should have.
How much was it supposed to make? $668 million is a lot of money. Could it have done more? Sure. However this was the first movie to reboot the character since 1978. Look at the movies in the superhero genre; Batman Begins, Capt America TFA, Thor, both Hulks, FF, X-Men (2000). All off them had low box office grosses with their opening movies than what they would make in their later films. The notion that everyone would pay to see a Superman movie over and over because it's a Superman movie; is the misstep that Superman Returns made. Content of your film matters. Snyder, Goyer and Nolan crafted a film that got butts in seats and inspired WB to make several more films off the success of MOS. To make a comparision: MOS is the Iron Man (2008) of the DC Cinematic Universe. The point where other films will be launched from.
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Old July 3 2014, 09:40 PM   #2738
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I was hoping that due to the negative reviews and (relatively speaking) middling box office return for Man of Steel that Synder would reign in his dark and gritty tendencies, but this photo isn't encouraging.
According to this, if the screenplay that's currently floating around is legit, the tone does seem to be a little lighter: http://badassdigest.com/2014/07/03/i...ell-as-heroes/
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Old July 3 2014, 11:42 PM   #2739
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To be honest I'm getting tired of people going on about "how dark the film will be and it will be bad, Superman should be optimistic bla bla bla". Bollocks. It's interesting to see a darker superman, it's something new. If you want the bright happy Superman that warned kids about getting into strangers cars or so on, watch the Reeves Superman films. Can we just give the darker Superman a chance? It's interesting and sheds the silly campy image of Christopher Reeves.
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Old July 4 2014, 12:47 AM   #2740
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I'd say he was more edgy and serious than actually "dark".
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Old July 4 2014, 12:48 AM   #2741
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To be honest I'm getting tired of people going on about "how dark the film will be and it will be bad, Superman should be optimistic bla bla bla". Bollocks. It's interesting to see a darker superman, it's something new. If you want the bright happy Superman that warned kids about getting into strangers cars or so on, watch the Reeves Superman films. Can we just give the darker Superman a chance? It's interesting and sheds the silly campy image of Christopher Reeves.
That's okay with me. I just don't want it to be actually dark. Literally. All the time. Have the sun come out every once and a while. And do all the colors have to be muted? Washed out? Seriously? I know Zac Snyder is always called a "visual director" but this is just nuts. Now he's filming a story in Gotham, which is apparently the darkest place in the universe.

I like Man Of Steel. I saw it twice in the theater. I own it. I wanted to see what else Snyder had done so I watched a little of 300, a little of Suckerpunch, and all of Watchmen. And, by God, he loves a particular kind of filming style. Muted, washed out colors with dull backgrounds. It looks cool ... for about twenty minutes and then it doesn't any more. I get it, he wants to accentuate the characters in a particular artsy style. He's a fine director! It's just this one thing that he does that irritates me.

Now he's got a Gotham setting. Holy scenery, Batman.
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Old July 4 2014, 01:00 AM   #2742
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Brightened up image.

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Old July 4 2014, 01:04 AM   #2743
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And I instantly think it's better! Nice!
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Old July 4 2014, 01:06 AM   #2744
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Much better.
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Old July 4 2014, 01:21 AM   #2745
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

I didn't mind the visuals in MOS, so I don't mind the look in the picture. Besides, it's Gotham, that always dark and dirty. Even if the scenes in Metropolis were bright and colorful, Gotham would probably still be pretty look like the picture.
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