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Old June 15 2014, 02:46 PM   #2656
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

What is a flier's physique?
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Old June 15 2014, 03:34 PM   #2657
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I actually think Momoa sounds like a really cool choice. No he doesn't look much like the classic, blonde haired Aquaman, but he does have the commanding presence and that Warrior King From a Mythical Land vibe about him which would be perfect for the character.

And god knows, the character could definitely stand to look a lot more badass.
Momoa with blond hair would look much more the part, I think.
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Old June 15 2014, 03:41 PM   #2658
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What's more heroic than saving the planet?
Saving the planet, rescuing the people in your city and finding a way to win the day without resorting to killing your opponent. That's what Superman does (see Grant Morrison's recent Action Comics arc). That's more heroic.
So Silver-Age fanwankery then mixed with Monday morning quarterbacking.
You asked "what's more heroic?" I gave you the definitive answer. Sorry if you don't like it.
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Old June 15 2014, 03:44 PM   #2659
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Yeah, I had trouble at first with Cavill because he didn't have a flier's physique.
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Old June 15 2014, 05:07 PM   #2660
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Momoa with blond hair would look much more the part, I think.
I don't know if I'd go that far. It's almost certain to make him look a whole lot sillier, and that's exactly what casting Momoa is supposed to avoid.
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Old June 15 2014, 07:20 PM   #2661
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I don't know if I'd go that far. It's almost certain to make him look a whole lot sillier, and that's exactly what casting Momoa is supposed to avoid.
Why, you've seen him blonde, completely with make-up used to accentuate it?
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Old June 15 2014, 08:36 PM   #2662
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What is a flier's physique?
He'd have to look like Starscream!
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Old June 15 2014, 08:42 PM   #2663
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Saving the planet, rescuing the people in your city and finding a way to win the day without resorting to killing your opponent. That's what Superman does (see Grant Morrison's recent Action Comics arc). That's more heroic.
So Silver-Age fanwankery then mixed with Monday morning quarterbacking.
You asked "what's more heroic?" I gave you the definitive answer. Sorry if you don't like it.
Well maybe if there was something other than the usual "There should have been another way" thing which is usually used to mean the writers need to do an asspull. I wouldn't consider it the usual comic fanboy minority complaint.
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Old June 15 2014, 10:53 PM   #2664
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So Silver-Age fanwankery then mixed with Monday morning quarterbacking.
You asked "what's more heroic?" I gave you the definitive answer. Sorry if you don't like it.
Well maybe if there was something other than the usual "There should have been another way" thing which is usually used to mean the writers need to do an asspull. I wouldn't consider it the usual comic fanboy minority complaint.
But now you are changing the topic. Your question was quite simple, "what's more heroic" and the answer is quite simple and it is not really a subjective answer. I wasn't saying what I would like to see, I was answering your question in a fairly objective fashion --with a subjective plug for Morrison's run on Action which I am quite fond of. I don't see any arguing with my point.

You could argue more subjectively that you felt that his actions in Man of Steel were heroic enough (and I would agree with you) but in the context of a super-hero movie there is plenty that Superman could have done to be more heroic.

The whole point of the story was that he was learning to be a hero. If this were the opening arc to a comic book, the follow up issues would most likely be written with Superman thinking exactly that, that he could have done more, and learning from those mistakes.

In fact, the movie could have ended much better with a scene with Lois and Superman (for example) with Superman feeling down because he knows that he could have done a better job and Lois encouraging him to be a better hero.
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Old June 15 2014, 11:12 PM   #2665
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I don't know if I'd go that far. It's almost certain to make him look a whole lot sillier, and that's exactly what casting Momoa is supposed to avoid.

How can you even ask that question when he played beside Emily Clarke for an entire season of Game of Thrones? She is completely transformed in my mind by her blonde wig.

What's more, he looks different in almost every role. Are you telling me that the average person could watch Stargate and say it was the same actor as in Game of Thrones or Conan?

Google his name and look for images of him without dredlocks. Then imagine blonde hair and I am sure you would be hard pressed to think he would look wrong for the part.

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Old June 15 2014, 11:26 PM   #2666
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^ I think you're possibly directing your question at the wrong person. As I read the above exchange, davejames was saying that there was no need to put Momoa in a blond wig as he'd look silly in it while Mr Fandango was saying you won't know what he'll look like until you see it.
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Old June 15 2014, 11:26 PM   #2667
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I just looked up his IMDb page. Funny how they now also list roles for which an actor is only rumored.

IMDb| Jason Momoa
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Old June 16 2014, 12:03 AM   #2668
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I guess Christopher Reeve had a "flier's physique"...he used hang-gliding experience to inform his flight movements as Superman.
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Old June 16 2014, 12:14 AM   #2669
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Maybe a swimmer's physic is better.



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Old June 16 2014, 09:22 PM   #2670
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But now you are changing the topic. Your question was quite simple, "what's more heroic" and the answer is quite simple and it is not really a subjective answer. I wasn't saying what I would like to see, I was answering your question in a fairly objective fashion
So objectively Superman is more heroic if he is willing to risk the lives of innocents by wasting the SECONDS he has to stop Zod from flat out murdering people becuase he stop time just so he can feel go about himself.

Because that what the "there should have been another way" complaint boils down to.
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