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Old April 25 2014, 03:32 AM   #2041
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

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Still, it's tough to shove as many characters into a movie as they seem to be trying to do with the new Batman/Superman movie.
We still don't know how prominent the characters will be. The impression I'm getting is that they may be cameos/minor parts setting up larger roles later on. Kinda like Agent 13 in The Winter Soldier or Amanda Waller in Green Lantern (which was itself hoped to be the start of a multi-hero film franchise).
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Old April 25 2014, 03:45 AM   #2042
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When I've rewatched Iron Man 2 recently, I've found the crossover elements far less intrusive than I used to. I still think there are some bits with the Nick Fury bit in the middle that don't 100% work. But in retrospect, the movie still has its own, unique, Iron Man-y flavor.
I was tempted to stick up for IM2 somewhere in there, because while the film underwhelmed me the first time I saw it, I never agreed with the criticism that it was a set-up film. The meat of the story dealt with the ramifications of what had been established in the first film (effectively or not)...and in retrospect, it has more of a purpose as a sequel than IM3, IMO.

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Much as I'm excited to see a glut of super heroes... Superman and Batman being together is such a great concept on its own that I'd like an entire movie dedicated to that before moving on to the others.
This x100. WB is too eager to catch up.
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Old April 25 2014, 04:45 AM   #2043
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When I've rewatched Iron Man 2 recently, I've found the crossover elements far less intrusive than I used to. I still think there are some bits with the Nick Fury bit in the middle that don't 100% work. But in retrospect, the movie still has its own, unique, Iron Man-y flavor.
I was tempted to stick up for IM2 somewhere in there, because while the film underwhelmed me the first time I saw it, I never agreed with the criticism that it was a set-up film. The meat of the story dealt with the ramifications of what had been established in the first film (effectively or not)...and in retrospect, it has more of a purpose as a sequel than IM3, IMO.
Agreed. There was a little bit of Avengers setup in IM2, yes, but it wasn't nearly as overt as critics seem to recall. It only took up a few minutes, at the most, out of a nearly two hour movie. I also agree with you about IM3, but that's a different topic.
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Much as I'm excited to see a glut of super heroes... Superman and Batman being together is such a great concept on its own that I'd like an entire movie dedicated to that before moving on to the others.
This x100. WB is too eager to catch up.
And I agree with you again. It doesn't look like Warner Bros. has figured out yet that the MCU has become such a massive success because of years of careful planning on Marvel Studios' part. WB is still coming at this with the same old fashioned "let's throw something together as quick as possible while comic book movies are still big" mentality that led to Green Lantern.
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Old April 25 2014, 05:06 AM   #2044
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

And may I say that's a striking new avatar.
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Old April 25 2014, 07:28 AM   #2045
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Old April 25 2014, 12:33 PM   #2046
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There was a little bit of Avengers setup in IM2, yes, but it wasn't nearly as overt as critics seem to recall. It only took up a few minutes, at the most, out of a nearly two hour movie.
Of course, you could argue that all of the Scarlett material was setup for Avengers.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Old April 25 2014, 05:24 PM   #2047
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Some people seem to have issues with connectivity of films in a franchise. I like the Shield/Avengers story, and that's why I don't have a problem with parts of Iron Man 2 being about Shield/Avengers.
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Old April 25 2014, 06:28 PM   #2048
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Much as I'm excited to see a glut of super heroes... Superman and Batman being together is such a great concept on its own that I'd like an entire movie dedicated to that before moving on to the others.
I think that's still likely to be what the bulk of the movie is about.

And then towards the end, as they're about to face down whatever huge threat there is, Batman will decide to enlist the help of others that he's been keeping tabs on-- presumably because Superman will have been severely weakened at that point and is not at full strength (because how ELSE to explain the need for other superheroes when someone with his powers is around? Lol)
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Old April 25 2014, 06:41 PM   #2049
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^You don't say?
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The final lines of the Batman/Superman movie:

"Bruce, even between the two of us, we can't face this!"

"You're right, that's why I've recruited help."


Cue splash scene of 4 more heroes arriving on the battle scene.

Continued in..... JUSTICE LEAGUE.

Rock ballad, credits roll.
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Old April 25 2014, 06:42 PM   #2050
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

This x100. WB is too eager to catch up.
And I agree with you again. It doesn't look like Warner Bros. has figured out yet that the MCU has become such a massive success because of years of careful planning on Marvel Studios' part. WB is still coming at this with the same old fashioned "let's throw something together as quick as possible while comic book movies are still big" mentality that led to Green Lantern.
I still imagine that WB meetings are a collection of old men smoking cigars at a board room table. They see this super - hero stuff and say "what is this shit? people buy this?" I don't think they have a clue.

Batman Begins was fairly grounded; they could understand that in the vein of a spy thriller / Kung fu / gangster movie. But a flying man in a cape? That's shit you push to boys to make them buy cereal; and girls hate it.
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Old April 25 2014, 06:51 PM   #2051
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Yeah that may well be. Although I think it could also be because they realize they've got some VERY difficult characters to have to adapt. It's a slightly steeper hill they have to climb than what Marvel has with it's stable of flawed, quippy, and relatable characters.
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Old April 25 2014, 06:59 PM   #2052
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

Another possibility for including all of these characters in a Superman "vs." Batman film...a la Squadron Supreme and Kingdom Come, Batman finds and brings together the other members of the future Justice League to fight Superman. (Pure speculation.)
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Old April 25 2014, 08:09 PM   #2053
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

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I still imagine that WB meetings are a collection of old men smoking cigars at a board room table. They see this super - hero stuff and say "what is this shit? people buy this?" I don't think they have a clue.

Batman Begins was fairly grounded; they could understand that in the vein of a spy thriller / Kung fu / gangster movie. But a flying man in a cape? That's shit you push to boys to make them buy cereal; and girls hate it.
I think you're off base. Jeff Robinov was a geek culture kind of guy. He was willing to take a lot of chances on geek movies. Some of them worked out, some of them didn't. That's the way it goes. The current management team is new in their positions, so how DC movies will fare under Kevin Tsujihara's leadership remains to be seen.

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(Although I think it's probably more likely that they'll use Kryptonian tech as the basis for Cyborg's cybernetics and a source of other acquired superpowers, the way the MCU has done with Asgardian and Chitauri tech.)
I had the same thought. If Metallo is in the next movie, he and Cyborg might originate from the same program.
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Old April 26 2014, 09:16 AM   #2054
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

I can't be bothered linking to them because I haven't seen any reports that I'd consider reliable or informed but I've seen a re-emergence of the rumours that Jason Momoa is to be in this movie over the last few days. Still one for the 'pinch of salt' department.
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Old April 28 2014, 02:24 AM   #2055
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

Warner Bros plans for Zack Snyder to direct Justice League after Superman/Batman. You can read the story here at the WSJ.
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