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Old July 18 2013, 09:42 PM   #16
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Re: Regarding the Strength of the Federation...

For me It is inferred that the federation is even matched to KE, or RSE. Like the US, China and Russia in the 60’s and 70’s ( China and Russia were not bosom buddies)
These Empires subjugate their member worlds, so their “colonies” could really be a pre warp world that happen to have large deposits of Dilithium, good farm lands ( why farm when you can replicate) and now is a “part” of the Empire.

Without silly rules and directives they could go to these worlds where the Federation would say we’ll wait a few hundred years until they get warp to warp 1. This could give the KE and RSE a lot of worlds and resources for the war machine, but not the personnel to man the mines and till the fields so they would keep the locals as cheap labor, periodic visits to pick up the resources, kill a few locals if the quotas are down, etc.

In worlds of strategic value (good anchorage and such) kill the locals build up the planet and scare the federation

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Old August 3 2013, 04:19 AM   #17
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Re: Regarding the Strength of the Federation...

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I was just discussing this with a friend-According to Wikipedia the Federation is composed of " more than 150 member planets and thousands of colonies spread across 8,000 light years of the Milky Way Galaxy".
The bolded part has no basis at all in canon. Lily asked Picard how many planets are in the Federation, he answered 150. In context, it seems clear that that number refers to both homeworlds and colonies.
That doesn't include colonies. The 150 planets are the home worlds of different member species.
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Old August 3 2013, 04:22 AM   #18
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I was just discussing this with a friend-According to Wikipedia the Federation is composed of " more than 150 member planets and thousands of colonies spread across 8,000 light years of the Milky Way Galaxy". In contrast, the enemies of the Federation are made up of one member species. So can someone explain why the Klingons, the Romulans, or the Cardassians are even a threat to the Federation, which has at its disposal the power and technology of so many different species working together?
Because it was never really thought out very clearly and didn't make a lick of sense, that's why. Moreover, it was fairly clear that, in TOS, we were watching the adventures of an Earth ship, not a Federation ship. The difference being that there were untold different fleets out there as part of the Federation. Sadly, this angle was quashed in TNG and beyond, turning the Federation Starfleet into a 'homo sapiens only club.'

Consider how powerful the Vulcans and Andorians are during Enterprise: they have their own worlds, fleets, armies, etc. Did all of that really go away when the Federation was founded and they meekly retreated to their homeworlds so that the mighty humans could defend them in human-designed starships?

Please. Like much of the vaunted 'canon,' the organization and power structure of the Federation doesn't make any sense whatever and is a thinly-drawn conceit to focus the story on human characters, save for the token 'outsider.'
No, all the member species had their own smaller fleets in comparison to Starfleet. Starfleet is just the main fleet of the Federation.
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Old August 3 2013, 05:10 AM   #19
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Re: Regarding the Strength of the Federation...

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I was just discussing this with a friend-According to Wikipedia the Federation is composed of " more than 150 member planets and thousands of colonies spread across 8,000 light years of the Milky Way Galaxy".
The bolded part has no basis at all in canon. Lily asked Picard how many planets are in the Federation, he answered 150. In context, it seems clear that that number refers to both homeworlds and colonies.
That doesn't include colonies. The 150 planets are the home worlds of different member species.
Okay, cite what episode or movie said otherwise.
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