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Old August 8 2013, 04:40 AM   #46
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Re: Characters Spirit - Reboot compared to TOS (Possible spoilers)

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It needs a pause button or slow-mo cause that goes by fast! Makes my eyes hurt.
You can also use click-drag to pull individual frames out of the animated set, if there's one you want to spend a little more time looking at.
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Old August 8 2013, 04:54 AM   #47
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Found this on tumblr. Thought it would be good for a laugh.

Ricardo and Benedict look more alike than I thought.
Yeah i see it too. In the nose, chin and eyebrows. I hope Benedict reprises Khan for a later film. Maybe as a good guy for film 4.
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Old August 8 2013, 09:36 AM   #48
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Found this on tumblr. Thought it would be good for a laugh.

Ricardo and Benedict look more alike than I thought.
Yeah i see it too. In the nose, chin and eyebrows. I hope Benedict reprises Khan for a later film. Maybe as a good guy for film 4.
Yeah, he has ears, a nose, a mouth, and his head sits on top of a neck.

<-- That guy looks like a Mexican!
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Old August 8 2013, 02:43 PM   #49
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Ricardo and Benedict look more alike than I thought.
Yeah i see it too. In the nose, chin and eyebrows. I hope Benedict reprises Khan for a later film. Maybe as a good guy for film 4.
Yeah, he has ears, a nose, a mouth, and his head sits on top of a neck.

<-- That guy looks like a Mexican!
Meaning what exactly? Mexicans have a wide variety of looks. Montalban's ancestry was entirely European. Other Mexicans have Native American and African ancestry. So yeah, that guy "looks" Mexican. So does my fair skinned, blue eye wife, who's grandmother is from Mexico.
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Old August 10 2013, 08:44 PM   #50
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I think they're excellent modernized, moviefied versions of the TOS characters. The biggest difference is that they see each other as friends first and officers second.

Kirk is based more on the classic movie Kirk than the (to be honest, rather generic and occasionally unpleasently grabby) TV series version.

Spock has probably changed the most of the main cast, although after what he's lived through it's not surprising. He's snarky and a little unstable.

McCoy is McCoy, but they're feeding him better in this timeline.

There's a lot more to Uhura. Like the "Mr. Adventure" scene from STIII expanded into a whole person. No more "I'm frightened, captain" and screaming. And she can speak Klingon.

Scotty has a bit of a chip on his shoulder now, and due perhaps to the Temporal Cold War has less hair than his older self.

Sulu's speech in ID was the coolest thing the character ever did. Less goofy than TOS Sulu, although we haven't seen enough of him to really say.

Chekov is the same as ever, but a little more humble and perhaps a little smarter - but like Sulu, we haven't seen enough to be certain.

Khan and Carol seem the most different to me, but the both were seen in a totally different situations than before. TOS Khan would probably do the same as ID Khan if put into the same situation. Carol seemed wide-eyed and innocent in ID but world weary in WoK. Such things come with age, I guess...
I disagree with that assessment of Kirk, Shatner's Kirk was never that impulsive reckless/careless nor was he super egotistical like Pine's Kirk. This Kirk makes every rookie mistake in the book and he's like "whatever". For example when the Vengeance caught up to and beat the living shit out of the Enterprise Kirk's response was to order the ship to Earth "right now", that was totally reckless and unlike Kirk as we know the character. The real Kirk would have lured the Vengeance to a nebula or some other place inhospitable to electronic equipment just like in TWOK and would have probably won. Just my $.02
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Old August 10 2013, 10:55 PM   #51
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Kirk is based more on the classic movie Kirk than the (to be honest, rather generic and occasionally unpleasently grabby) TV series version.

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I disagree with that assessment of Kirk, Shatner's Kirk was never that impulsive reckless/careless nor was he super egotistical like Pine's Kirk. This Kirk makes every rookie mistake in the book and he's like "whatever". For example when the Vengeance caught up to and beat the living shit out of the Enterprise Kirk's response was to order the ship to Earth "right now", that was totally reckless and unlike Kirk as we know the character. The real Kirk would have lured the Vengeance to a nebula or some other place inhospitable to electronic equipment just like in TWOK and would have probably won. Just my $.02
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Old August 10 2013, 11:26 PM   #52
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I think they're excellent modernized, moviefied versions of the TOS characters. The biggest difference is that they see each other as friends first and officers second.

Kirk is based more on the classic movie Kirk than the (to be honest, rather generic and occasionally unpleasently grabby) TV series version.

Spock has probably changed the most of the main cast, although after what he's lived through it's not surprising. He's snarky and a little unstable.

McCoy is McCoy, but they're feeding him better in this timeline.

There's a lot more to Uhura. Like the "Mr. Adventure" scene from STIII expanded into a whole person. No more "I'm frightened, captain" and screaming. And she can speak Klingon.

Scotty has a bit of a chip on his shoulder now, and due perhaps to the Temporal Cold War has less hair than his older self.

Sulu's speech in ID was the coolest thing the character ever did. Less goofy than TOS Sulu, although we haven't seen enough of him to really say.

Chekov is the same as ever, but a little more humble and perhaps a little smarter - but like Sulu, we haven't seen enough to be certain.

Khan and Carol seem the most different to me, but the both were seen in a totally different situations than before. TOS Khan would probably do the same as ID Khan if put into the same situation. Carol seemed wide-eyed and innocent in ID but world weary in WoK. Such things come with age, I guess...
I disagree with that assessment of Kirk, Shatner's Kirk was never that impulsive reckless/careless nor was he super egotistical like Pine's Kirk. This Kirk makes every rookie mistake in the book and he's like "whatever". For example when the Vengeance caught up to and beat the living shit out of the Enterprise Kirk's response was to order the ship to Earth "right now", that was totally reckless and unlike Kirk as we know the character. The real Kirk would have lured the Vengeance to a nebula or some other place inhospitable to electronic equipment just like in TWOK and would have probably won. Just my $.02
Isn't that the Kirk who's ship got the living shit beat out of and got several crewman killed in the same movie, when he kept his shields down when another ship approached? The same Kirk, who's unfamiliarity with his ship's new specs in the previous film almost proved fatal? Kirk's always been somewhat egotistical and reckless. Often those are the traits that allow him to succeed. Occasionally they bite him in the ass.
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Old August 10 2013, 11:32 PM   #53
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Isn't that the Kirk who's ship got the living shit beat out of and got several crewman killed in the same movie, when he kept his shields down when another ship approached? The same Kirk, who's unfamiliarity with his ship's new specs in the previous film almost proved fatal? Kirk's always been somewhat egotistical and reckless. Often those are the traits that allow him to succeed. Occasionally they bite him in the ass.
Plus, the Kirk in the new movies is six or seven years younger than the one we first get to know in Where No Man...

I'm sure someone can point me to the episodes of TOS that take place in 2258 that have Kirk involved?
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Old August 14 2013, 10:35 AM   #54
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Found this on tumblr. Thought it would be good for a laugh.

I always thought that Cumberbatch was actually a good fit to Space Seed Montalban - except for the skin color. People probably always have STII's older Khan in mind which was certainly different from the TOS version
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Old August 14 2013, 10:49 AM   #55
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You've got that right - skin colour and all!
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