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Old July 15 2013, 10:14 PM   #1
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DIE HARD turns 25 today

It's led to some decent imitations and quite a few weak ones. I'm not going to mention the fourth sequel as it was an utter disgrace. But it led Hollywood to realize a thriller's villains can be allowed to be smarter and tougher than the hero and give him major challenges.....and not just with James Bond. If only Steven Seagal ever understood this. Bruce Willis notwithstanding, what would DIE HARD be without Hans and Karl? How in the world did Alan Rickman NOT get a nomination for Best Supporting Actor for 1988?

DH is not quite the finest action film ever (BATTLE ROYALE and ALIENS are higher up in my mind) but at least it reached number two before BR.
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Old July 15 2013, 10:21 PM   #2
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One of the better 80's movies. Though I think Alan Rickman stole the film.
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Old July 16 2013, 12:06 AM   #3
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A hero is only as good as the villain he's up against.

Another thing that the Die Hard creators understood is that humor will endear a character to the audience much more quickly than just watching him beat down the baddie.

*sigh* I can't believe this film was released 25 years ago. God, I'm old!
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Old July 16 2013, 12:35 AM   #4
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Born 25 years ago, died what.. just shy of its 19th birthday with the release of Live Free or Die Hard? A tragic loss
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Old July 16 2013, 12:44 AM   #5
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One of the greatest Christmas Movies of all time.
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Old July 16 2013, 12:50 AM   #6
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^It's definantly on my list of top Christmas movies.
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Old July 16 2013, 01:40 PM   #7
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I think LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD was a considerable step up from DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE. (Even having a PG-13 rating didn't hurt it.) But after suffering through A GOOD DAY TO DIE HARD (twice), VENGEANCE looks much better now.

Alexander Godunov, who played Karl from the first film, coincidentally died just as VENGEANCE opened in 1995.

For those non-Blu Rayers who have the former DVD special editions and not the recent deluxe versions, I recommend putting on the text commentary while you pay DH 1. Alan Rickman has several good comments as it progresses.
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Old July 16 2013, 02:01 PM   #8
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Best Christmas film ever, best action movie ever too.

I can still remember the first trailers…wondering what David Addison was doing running around with a gun

One of the few films to literally have me on the edge of my seat the first time I saw it on the big screen.
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Old July 16 2013, 05:44 PM   #9
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Alan Rickman made the original so much fun. Just the way he says his lines cracks me up every time:

- "Now I have a machine gun. Ho. Ho. Ho."
- "Nice suit. John Phillips, London. I have two myself. Rumor has it Arafat buys his there."
- "I am an exceptional thief, Mrs McClane."
- "You asked for miracles, Theo; I give you the F... B... I...! "
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Old July 16 2013, 05:59 PM   #10
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Still one of my favorite movie trilogies.
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Old July 17 2013, 10:22 PM   #11
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DIE HARD's source material is the late Roderick Thorp's novel Nothing Lasts Forever. It's a sequel to The Detective, which was adapted into a solid '60s film starring Frank Sinatra, Robert Duvall and others.

In Nothing Lasts Forever, ''John McClane'' and ''Hans Gruber'' are actually Joe Leland and Little Tony. McClane's wife Holly is instead Leland's daughter Stephanie. Tony has none of Hans's personality and Leland is much older than McClane. And unfortunately when Tony is blown out of the building, he takes Stephanie with her all the way down.

Karl, Sergeant Al Powell and Deputy Chief Dwayne T. Robinson all retain their names from the book. After Holly has persished, and Karl resurfaces at the climax, Powell still eliminates him....while essentially using Robinson as a human shield. So Robinson dies too at Karl's hands. This is not an ideal scene for test audiences, movie-wise...

But since Paul Gleason, who played Robinson, is last shown AS Karl is about to blast away----and NOT after Karl's taken out----I've always had a nagging suspicion 20th Century Fox has been suppressing one doozy of a deleted scene-fragment.
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Old July 18 2013, 10:05 AM   #12
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I read the book, compared to the film it is very dull...
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Old July 18 2013, 10:32 AM   #13
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Congratulations.
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Old July 18 2013, 11:57 AM   #14
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One of the most tense Hollywood thrillers out there. Harry Ellis was such a great sleazeball.

"Hans, bubie...I'm your white knight!"
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Old July 18 2013, 12:02 PM   #15
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But since Paul Gleason, who played Robinson, is last shown AS Karl is about to blast away----and NOT after Karl's taken out----I've always had a nagging suspicion 20th Century Fox has been suppressing one doozy of a deleted scene-fragment.
The scene is also scored with a tracked cue that James Horner did for Aliens rather than new material by Michael Kamen. Just thought I'd mention that in case it helps your theory...
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