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Old July 15 2013, 03:05 AM   #76
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Guy is like the Sultan of Sarcasm. Take him seriously at your own peril. Yet do not dismiss his cunning and intelligence. He's awfully perceptive at times.
It's like Sulu once said... "You try to cross brains with Spock, he'll cut you to pieces every time."
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Old July 15 2013, 03:20 AM   #77
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From the novel...
2 Editor’s note : The human concept of friend is most nearly duplicated in Vulcan thought by the term t’hy’la , which can also mean brother and lover . Spock’s recollection (from which this chapter has drawn) is that it was a most difficult moment for him since he did indeed consider Kirk to have become his brother. However, because t’hy’la can be used to mean lover, and since Kirk’s and Spock’s friendship was unusually close, this has led to some speculation over whether they had actually indeed become lovers. At our request, Admiral Kirk supplied the following comment on this subject:
“I was never aware of this lovers rumor, although I have been told that Spock encountered it several times. Apparently he had always dismissed it with his characteristic lifting of his right eyebrow which usually connoted some combination of surprise, disbelief, and/or annoyance. As for myself, although I have no moral or other objections to physical love in any of its many Earthly, alien, and mixed forms, I have always found my best gratification in that creature woman . Also, I would dislike being thought of as so foolish that I would select a love partner who came into sexual heat only once every seven years.”
The ebook I am using, is new, duh, but the "all the (dang fangled whipper snapper) kids are super sexually experimental" rant is missing... Am I looking in the wrong part of the book, or is this censorship?

(I sold most of my hard copies at a convention years ago to make room and buy beer.)
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Old August 10 2013, 01:52 AM   #78
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Vorik seems like a nice guy to me. I always thought it was strange that Vorik had to deal with so much pain and humiliation during his pon farr, but Tuvok managed to find an easy solution for his. Perhaps they could have solved Vorik's problem by creating a holographic replica of Torres.
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Old August 10 2013, 02:35 AM   #79
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Holograms "should not" work because they are telepathically void.

(Yes, Tuvok I know, that's why I used commas.)

Riker was annoyed by the three foot version of himself in Holopursuits, which is when they claimed that there are not legal pitches against using someone's likeness "immorally".

Leah Brahms was also annoyed that the man she would one day marry was obviously shtupping a hologram of her for years before he had a chance to take a run at her, and on Earth she would have been in a better position to start the legal ball rolling on squashing this fetish but... How do you police such a thing if you can get the laws on the books? Can a Hologram of a real person be used for "moral" reasons, and where do you draw the line between moral and immoral, and what if accurate historical recreations are depicting immoral acts, suddenly education is legally untenable.

Is it possible that the lawyer subspecies of man never completely recovered from their own 21st century holocaust?
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Old August 10 2013, 02:38 AM   #80
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Would have been funny if Holo-Leah was better in the sack than Real-Leah.
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Old August 10 2013, 02:43 AM   #81
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Well, he convinced her that he would NEVER do that in the episode, and even if LaForge was telling the truth, there was still enough time that she could have levelled the playing field soiling a Geordiegram or two.
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