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Old August 30 2013, 10:22 PM   #196
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness out on Blu-ray/DVD September 10th [spoiler

TrekCore's INTO DARKNESS Blu-ray review: "...the most confusing, exploitative release ever"
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Old August 30 2013, 10:35 PM   #197
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness out on Blu-ray/DVD September 10th [spoiler

I'm neither confused or angry about this release. It isn't the first time Paramount has had retailer exclusive bonus features (Best Buy bonus discs).

I want the movie, the extras are pretty low down the list.
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Old August 30 2013, 10:46 PM   #198
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness out on Blu-ray/DVD September 10th [spoiler

Ah well my order has gone into dispatching so can't cancel it now. I'm looking forward to watching the movie again and watching the meagre special features.
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Old August 30 2013, 10:46 PM   #199
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness out on Blu-ray/DVD September 10th [spoiler

A hyperbolic headline for me - a tadge OTT. Personally, I can't wait to get my hands on this disc - I couldn't care less if there isn't even trailer on it. Technical presentation is paramount (excuse the pun)!
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Old August 30 2013, 11:05 PM   #200
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A hyperbolic headline for me - a tadge OTT. Personally, I can't wait to get my hands on this disc - I couldn't care less if there isn't even trailer on it. Technical presentation is paramount (excuse the pun)!
But even the technical presentation is missing the proper aspect ratio. You're missing 25% of the image during IMAX-shot scenes. It's outrageous that they wouldn't include it. (ESPECIALLY when it's rumored to be available on iTunes and the German release of the film). It just doesn't make sense.
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Old August 30 2013, 11:24 PM   #201
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A hyperbolic headline for me - a tadge OTT. Personally, I can't wait to get my hands on this disc - I couldn't care less if there isn't even trailer on it. Technical presentation is paramount (excuse the pun)!
But even the technical presentation is missing the proper aspect ratio. You're missing 25% of the image during IMAX-shot scenes. It's outrageous that they wouldn't include it. (ESPECIALLY when it's rumored to be available on iTunes and the German release of the film). It just doesn't make sense.
Although I don't mind variable aspect ratio releases, in fact, The Dark Knight/Rises IMAX footage is spectacular, who's to say what's technically right or wrong?

James Cameron shot Avatar with BOTH open matte and cropped versions in mind for example. I haven't seen the STID IMAX scenes, but the framing throughout the film looked spot on to my eye - despite the cropping.
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Old August 30 2013, 11:24 PM   #202
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But even the technical presentation is missing the proper aspect ratio. You're missing 25% of the image during IMAX-shot scenes. It's outrageous that they wouldn't include it. (ESPECIALLY when it's rumored to be available on iTunes and the German release of the film). It just doesn't make sense.
I saw the film four times in regular 2D. I doubt I'll even notice it.
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Old August 30 2013, 11:42 PM   #203
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Old August 30 2013, 11:45 PM   #204
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But even the technical presentation is missing the proper aspect ratio. You're missing 25% of the image during IMAX-shot scenes. It's outrageous that they wouldn't include it. (ESPECIALLY when it's rumored to be available on iTunes and the German release of the film). It just doesn't make sense.
I saw the film four times in regular 2D. I doubt I'll even notice it.
Having seen the film in 2D, 3D, and IMAX 3D (twice). It's something I'm going to notice. (And did, upon a rewatch on my computer last weekend.) I want my IMAX scenes.

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A hyperbolic headline for me - a tadge OTT. Personally, I can't wait to get my hands on this disc - I couldn't care less if there isn't even trailer on it. Technical presentation is paramount (excuse the pun)!
But even the technical presentation is missing the proper aspect ratio. You're missing 25% of the image during IMAX-shot scenes. It's outrageous that they wouldn't include it. (ESPECIALLY when it's rumored to be available on iTunes and the German release of the film). It just doesn't make sense.
Although I don't mind variable aspect ratio releases, in fact, The Dark Knight/Rises IMAX footage is spectacular, who's to say what's technically right or wrong?

James Cameron shot Avatar with BOTH open matte and cropped versions in mind for example. I haven't seen the STID IMAX scenes, but the framing throughout the film looked spot on to my eye - despite the cropping.
Well, there's that pesky artistic vision that could give you an idea of what's technically right and wrong, when you consider that shooting in IMAX is an artistic decision.

It becomes a slippery slope of editing that slips into Star Wars Special Edition territory.

*kanye shrug*
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Old August 31 2013, 12:03 AM   #205
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But even the technical presentation is missing the proper aspect ratio. You're missing 25% of the image during IMAX-shot scenes. It's outrageous that they wouldn't include it. (ESPECIALLY when it's rumored to be available on iTunes and the German release of the film). It just doesn't make sense.
I saw the film four times in regular 2D. I doubt I'll even notice it.
Having seen the film in 2D, 3D, and IMAX 3D (twice). It's something I'm going to notice. (And did, upon a rewatch on my computer last weekend.) I want my IMAX scenes.

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But even the technical presentation is missing the proper aspect ratio. You're missing 25% of the image during IMAX-shot scenes. It's outrageous that they wouldn't include it. (ESPECIALLY when it's rumored to be available on iTunes and the German release of the film). It just doesn't make sense.
Although I don't mind variable aspect ratio releases, in fact, The Dark Knight/Rises IMAX footage is spectacular, who's to say what's technically right or wrong?

James Cameron shot Avatar with BOTH open matte and cropped versions in mind for example. I haven't seen the STID IMAX scenes, but the framing throughout the film looked spot on to my eye - despite the cropping.
Well, there's that pesky artistic vision that could give you an idea of what's technically right and wrong, when you consider that shooting in IMAX is an artistic decision.

It becomes a slippery slope of editing that slips into Star Wars Special Edition territory.

*kanye shrug*
Don't know what a "kanye shrug" is?

I've seen the open matte version of Titanic and own Avatar. In both cases the shot composition in MANY of the scenes look way too "loose" and detract from the visuals IMHO.

The perceived "artistic vision" is of course completely subjective.
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Old August 31 2013, 01:17 AM   #206
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Don't know what a "kanye shrug" is?
I think it's the stupid look on your face when you steal the microphone away from the real winner at an awards show and suddenly realize you're a jack-ass.
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Old August 31 2013, 02:51 AM   #207
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Don't know what a "kanye shrug" is?

I've seen the open matte version of Titanic and own Avatar. In both cases the shot composition in MANY of the scenes look way too "loose" and detract from the visuals IMHO.

The perceived "artistic vision" is of course completely subjective.
Well, no, it's not subjective really. The director is the leader of the film and has a certain 'vision' of what he wants scenes and shots to look and feel like, and achieves this (in this case) with an IMAX 70mm camera. Anything outside of that detracts from what JJ Abrams intended the film to look like and therefore is a modified and (imo) inferior product. Simple as that.

The point being, I've cancelled my pre-order of Star Trek Into Darkness and won't purchase it until a superior product is made available, whether that be an international version or an updated release (which is in the realm of possibility seeing how wide this story has spread).
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Old August 31 2013, 03:23 AM   #208
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Well, no, it's not subjective really. The director is the leader of the film and has a certain 'vision' of what he wants scenes and shots to look and feel like, and achieves this (in this case) with an IMAX 70mm camera. Anything outside of that detracts from what JJ Abrams intended the film to look like and therefore is a modified and (imo) inferior product. Simple as that.
I'll be honest here, when I watched The Dark Knight the shifting aspect ratio threw me right out of the movie and it isn't something I'm a fan of.

So I'm more than happy that the film has a consistent aspect ratio all the way through.
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Old August 31 2013, 04:44 AM   #209
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I posted this in the other thread and thought I'd post it here too.

Heads up guys, go to CinemaNow.com and sign in or create an account. Search for "Star Trek" and the exclusive Best Buy extra features, with a 30 minute run time, show up as a "free title" purchase. Unfortunately you have to have a cc on the site to complete the purchase but, the price is $0.00. I have a feeling that this is a mistake so, act quickly.

EDIT: I can confirm that it works, watching the features right now. If it's a mistake, serves them right IMO.

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Old August 31 2013, 07:26 AM   #210
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I think this release is different from previous "retailer exclusives" because the features on the regular release seem so light and fluffy. I'm most upset about the lack of a commentary track.
"That being said"... I'm not cancelling my pre-order. I'm getting the phaser set! And maybe the target set. I can just ebay the extra film discs I have and keep the bonus discs. What am I going to do with a DVD of the movie anyways? Blu-ray is the way to go. I don;t mind digital copies, but nothing yet replaces the quality of blu ray on a nice big tv, plus, I can lend my movie out.
I do understand the anger over this release though, but for the most part, I didn't really get into the special features on the last JJ Trek movie.
Now, CBS and their Trek TV releases on Blu? There's some real extra value there, and they seem to be doing the fans right. Even there though, Best Buy had a few short extra features through CinemaNow not on the discs, but Best Buy paid for those features to be made. But I always prefer physical media, even for bonus content.
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