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Old August 24 2013, 11:43 PM   #136
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Re: Dreadnought-Class Production Line (Spoilers?)

Based on the micromachines toy (and having not seen the TNG episode), I used to think the USS Stargazer was yellow...
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Old August 25 2013, 02:22 AM   #137
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Re: Dreadnought-Class Production Line (Spoilers?)

Wasn't it yellow in Picard's Ready Room too?
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Old August 25 2013, 02:32 AM   #138
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Yes. The Sternbach article about the development of the class says it's warp stress paint.

I was struck today re-watching the film. Vengeance is said to be a dedicated warship. Yet, she's pretty effing big to not have science labs or anything of the like. What do you suppose occupies the majority of her interior? Hangars and weapons stores? Barracks?
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Old August 25 2013, 03:02 AM   #139
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What do you suppose occupies the majority of her interior? Hangars and weapons stores? Barracks?
All of the above. If and when the ship is ever fitted out for a real mission, that is. Something else to consider is that the Section 31 base under London doesn't only have those new long-range torpedoes lying around, it also has those funny looking shelves that contain row upon row upon row of sleek-looking transport craft carrying both packs of torpedoes and some much larger objects that might be phaser cannons or missiles or something.

We're not really sure what it means for Vengeance to BE a pure warship since Starfleet almost never builds those kinds of ships. Heavy firepower is a must, obviously, but as I've said in many threads, it seems that most wars are actually fought on the ground anyway and a ship the size of Vengeance would make a very effective staging area and orbital support system for a battalion of troops.
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Old August 25 2013, 03:48 AM   #140
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I wonder is Vengeance is meant to be more a command ship? She's got the guns to hold her own, but--the attack on Enterprise aside (and that's more Kirk forcing Marcus's hand than any real plan)--I got the impression she's meant to hang out in and fire from a distance. Basically,the enemy never knows what's coming or who did it.
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Old August 25 2013, 10:15 AM   #141
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Yes. The Sternbach article about the development of the class says it's warp stress paint.
So it is yellow!

Does that mean the Fututa version of the USS Stargazer is the wrong colour instead (not being yellow at all)?

So confused...
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Old August 25 2013, 10:36 AM   #142
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Yes. The Sternbach article about the development of the class says it's warp stress paint.
So it is yellow!

Does that mean the Fututa version of the USS Stargazer is the wrong colour instead (not being yellow at all)?

So confused...
No, cause we've seen Stargazer, she's Federation standard colors.


So either the "warp stress paint" is something just done during when working the kinks out of the ship and engines during construction, or the model in Picard's ready room is wrong.

Edit: The model isn't the Stargazer in Picard's ready room it's the NCC-7100. So it could be the right color for that ship if it was a new technology testbed.
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Old August 25 2013, 04:23 PM   #143
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I was struck today re-watching the film.
Well, that seems unnecessary.

A stern talking-to would have sufficed.
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Old August 26 2013, 07:56 PM   #144
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Edit: The model isn't the Stargazer in Picard's ready room it's the NCC-7100. So it could be the right color for that ship if it was a new technology testbed.
We have seen further tabletop models that weren't the right color for the ship they depict. Most of the Constitution models aboard the E-D were painted bright silver, say. I guess a model in the Captain's very own Ready Room might be more accurate than mere mass-produced tabletop decorations elsewhere, but that need not really be the case.

Does a Constellation class ship with the registry NCC-7100 really exist? Or is the number just an in-joke by the person who gave Picard that model - perhaps the door number to a very specific suite, or a stardate of great significance? We can't really tell - but we can tell that the tabletop model differs from the Stargazer in all sorts of detail, in addition to the registry and the color...

Then again, we can only tell that when we look really close, and that is cheating, because none of the episodes show the model closely enough. Only set photography reveals e.g. the lack of secondary phaser turrets or certain ventral detail.

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Old August 26 2013, 08:05 PM   #145
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Yeah sorry, I thought the original question was "Is the model yellow?"

Sternbach reasoned that a yellow warp stress paint can be applied for flight tests, and that's why the model was yellow.
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Old August 26 2013, 11:32 PM   #146
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Yes. The Sternbach article about the development of the class says it's warp stress paint.
So it is yellow!

Does that mean the Fututa version of the USS Stargazer is the wrong colour instead (not being yellow at all)?

So confused...
No, cause we've seen Stargazer, she's Federation standard colors.


So either the "warp stress paint" is something just done during when working the kinks out of the ship and engines during construction, or the model in Picard's ready room is wrong.

Edit: The model isn't the Stargazer in Picard's ready room it's the NCC-7100. So it could be the right color for that ship if it was a new technology testbed.
Thanks for confirming that.
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