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View Poll Results: Who do you think was the best top secret organization?
The Starfleet's Section 31 13 56.52%
The Romulan's Tal Shiar 6 26.09%
The Cardassian's Obsidian Order 2 8.70%
The Vulcan's V'Shar 2 8.70%
Klingon Intelligence 0 0%
Bajoran Intelligence 0 0%
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Old January 14 2014, 12:04 PM   #1
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Who do you think was the best top secret organization?

They all have their specialties. Section 31's relentlessness, the Tal Shiar's manipulability, the Obsidian Order's way of altering the facts, the V'Shar and their protection of higher knowledge, Bajoran Intelligences information gaining and infiltration skills, and Klingon Intelligences "I heard a guy say..." skills (among others). Who do you think is the is the best, when it comes to intelligence, execution, tech, and covering their trails?
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Old January 14 2014, 12:09 PM   #2
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My votes for Section 31. They have their hands in everything IMO.
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Old January 14 2014, 12:17 PM   #3
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Re: Who do you think was the best top secret organization?

The Andorian Kivishanth.

Never heard of them?

EXACTLY.
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Old January 14 2014, 12:24 PM   #4
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Re: Who do you think was the best top secret organization?

Like in all things I suspect that they were each very good at some things and could do better in others. i.e

The Obsidian Order was supposed to be very good in it's execution of assignments.

Section 31 was very good at keeping it's existance unknown (at least from most of the Federation)
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Old January 14 2014, 12:36 PM   #5
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Re: Who do you think was the best top secret organization?

I'll go with Section 31 because it was a slap in the face to the evolved human idealism. Do we hate them? Do we champion them? Just how rogue are they?

Unanswered questions. The antidote to humans = enlightened.
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Old January 14 2014, 01:38 PM   #6
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V'Shar. Vulcans just do everything better.
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Old January 14 2014, 01:45 PM   #7
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The V'Shar is intriguing. What sort of agendas do they have that Vulcan society would not condone?

The Obsidian Order.. you know they are all shits.

The Tal'Shiar.. you know they are all shits.

Klingon Intelligence? Oxymoron?

Bajor secret tea service? Well okay, we know their religious orders are nasty.
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Old January 14 2014, 02:12 PM   #8
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Re: Who do you think was the best top secret organization?

The Best: Section 31.

Runner-up: The Tal Shiar.

Compared to these two, the Obsidian Order looked pretty incompetent if you really think about it. They failed in preventing the rise of a dissident movement on Cardassia and they were tricked by the Dominion into a Wolf 359-like defeat. Considering that, Garak was probably the best man they had and they managed to exile him.

I don't think Vulcan, Klingon, or Bajoran Intelligence has ever done something worth of note.
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Old January 14 2014, 03:00 PM   #9
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Ensign_Redshirt wrote: View Post
I don't think Vulcan, Klingon, or Bajoran Intelligence has ever done something worth of note.
That's what they want you to think.

The best intelligence agency is the one you never hear anything about.
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Old January 14 2014, 03:22 PM   #10
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^It's the same with the worst.
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Old January 14 2014, 03:33 PM   #11
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USS Triumphant wrote: View Post
The Andorian Kivishanth.

Never heard of them?

EXACTLY.
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Ensign_Redshirt wrote: View Post
I don't think Vulcan, Klingon, or Bajoran Intelligence has ever done something worth of note.
That's what they want you to think.

The best intelligence agency is the one you never hear anything about.
Machiavelli would agree, no doubt.
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Old January 14 2014, 03:47 PM   #12
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I don't think Vulcan, Klingon, or Bajoran Intelligence has ever done something worth of note.
That's what they want you to think.

The best intelligence agency is the one you never hear anything about.
I strongly doubt that the intelligence agencies of Papua New Guinea and Sri Lanka fall under that category though...
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Old January 14 2014, 03:50 PM   #13
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Re: Who do you think was the best top secret organization?

Project Sign from the Shatnerverse novels. Who are they? They're the guys who steal Section 31's lunch money. They have ships a generation ahead of Starfleet, entirely holographic crews, they wipe the memories of their human operatives leaving no trace of themselves and their leader is....

Top that, other secret organizations.
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Old January 14 2014, 06:57 PM   #14
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Just because Vulcan intel is competent and secret doesn't mean they work at cross purposes to Vulcan society in general. Where would be the logic in that?

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Top that, other secret organizations.
If you can tell us that much about them, they ain't all that.
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Old January 14 2014, 07:02 PM   #15
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Section 31, because they're the only ones on that list that actually are top secret. The others are known to their general public.
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