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Old July 21 2013, 04:07 AM   #31
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Re: Buck Rogers in the 25th Century - pilot "Awakening" missing scene

Here is the opening credit sequence for the movie version. I vaguely remember seeing this at a drive-in theater when I was just a little guy. For the life of me I'll never understand why Buck woke up in the first place.

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Old July 21 2013, 04:10 AM   #32
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Here is the opening credit sequence for the movie version. I vaguely remember seeing this at a drive-in theater when I was just a little guy. For the life of me I'll never understand why Buck woke up in the first place.
Been a while since I've seen it, but iirc he woke up because the Draconian's found him and were curious and thought they could use him as a way to get through Earth's defence shield.
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Old July 21 2013, 12:27 PM   #33
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Re: Buck Rogers in the 25th Century - pilot "Awakening" missing scene

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Was Buck a movie first then the tv pilot or was it like Galactica where they had the TV pilot and hacked it up into a movie?
Like the Galactica pilot, it was shot as a TV pilot, but was released theatrically as a movie before the series premiered.
And then several new scenes were shot for the TV broadcast, many of them intended to help set up the series after it got the "green light." A few bits of the theatrical version were also cut from the final broadcast version... also like the Galactica pilot.
Now you mention it, I remember seeing a tacked-on scene after the destruction of Draconia, when Dr Huer was asking Buck to help out the Earth Defense Directorate as an agent, with the advantage of not being in any database.
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Old July 21 2013, 12:37 PM   #34
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Re: Buck Rogers in the 25th Century - pilot "Awakening" missing scene

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Here is the opening credit sequence for the movie version. I vaguely remember seeing this at a drive-in theater when I was just a little guy. For the life of me I'll never understand why Buck woke up in the first place.
Been a while since I've seen it, but iirc he woke up because the Draconian's found him and were curious and thought they could use him as a way to get through Earth's defence shield.
Uh...I don't think that's what AJK meant.
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Old July 21 2013, 01:59 PM   #35
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Re: Buck Rogers in the 25th Century - pilot "Awakening" missing scene

I found this!

Buck Rogers 25th Century - Deleted Scene from movie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMyaMGqhI_c
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Old July 21 2013, 09:23 PM   #36
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Here is the opening credit sequence for the movie version. I vaguely remember seeing this at a drive-in theater when I was just a little guy. For the life of me I'll never understand why Buck woke up in the first place.
Been a while since I've seen it, but iirc he woke up because the Draconian's found him and were curious and thought they could use him as a way to get through Earth's defence shield.
I had the idea that Starfighters were rather flimsy in some respects--and thought the shuttle-type craft's tiles helped dissipate the Maurader's blast rather well. usually, a direct hit blows up a small craft.

There is a model of that craft as well

http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/Ranger%203%20Page.htm

The studio model was later modified for use as a shuttle on Searcher, but not before being used on Battlestar Galactica as a Terra craft.

Sadly, the idea below would not work without help:

http://spaceshuttletothemoon.blogspot.com/
Here is an interesting post about using the orbiter to go beyond Earth orbit (BEO)

http://cosmoquest.org/forum/showthre...84#post2135584
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Old July 22 2013, 01:26 AM   #37
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Re: Buck Rogers in the 25th Century - pilot "Awakening" missing scene

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I found this!

Buck Rogers 25th Century - Deleted Scene from movie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMyaMGqhI_c
That's actually the end scene that was added to the recent DVD release. The OP is talking about something else.
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Old July 22 2013, 02:29 AM   #38
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Re: Buck Rogers in the 25th Century - pilot "Awakening" missing scene

Looks like Buck's thinking of opening an Italian restaurant there....
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Old July 22 2013, 01:48 PM   #39
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I had the idea that Starfighters were rather flimsy in some respects--and thought the shuttle-type craft's tiles helped dissipate the Maurader's blast rather well. usually, a direct hit blows up a small craft.

There is a model of that craft as well

http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/Ranger%203%20Page.htm

The studio model was later modified for use as a shuttle on Searcher, but not before being used on Battlestar Galactica as a Terra craft.
So it was actually filmed as Ranger 3 before it was used in BSG?
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Old July 22 2013, 04:19 PM   #40
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Re: Buck Rogers in the 25th Century - pilot "Awakening" missing scene

^Yes, the Buck pilot was shot while BSG was still in production.
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Old July 22 2013, 06:04 PM   #41
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Oh well, at least "Greetings from Earth" gave something back. Some of those establishing shots filmed at Expo '67 were edited into the broadcast version of "Awakening."
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Old July 28 2013, 09:28 PM   #42
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Here is some early art of what Buck's ships would looks like
http://space1970.blogspot.com/2012/0...tv-series.html

I seem to remember early art of the Palamino from the Black Hole that looked similar, in that the ship was longer--and didn't look like a water tower.
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Old July 28 2013, 09:56 PM   #43
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Re: Buck Rogers in the 25th Century - pilot "Awakening" missing scene

Watched awakening and Planet Of The Slave girls over the weekend and noticed that like the original BSG it suffered with relation to the special effects. At one point I was wondering if some shots have been reconstructed from Battlestar FX shots where they changed some elements (mainly the ships).

Or would it have been the same FX shop using the same techniques and shots for both shows.
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Old July 28 2013, 10:22 PM   #44
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^BSG and BR were both from the same producers and the same studio, and they reused a lot of the same FX elements. So yeah, almost certainly the same FX house.
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Old July 29 2013, 01:46 AM   #45
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The first 7 hrs of GALACTICA were done by what was later known as Apogee, a splinter group of STAR WARS veterans headed up by John Dykstra.

After the pilot and the pair of 2 parters were done, Dykstra withdrew (I don't think Uni was holding up their end, he wasn't getting to direct and the number of shows was much larger than they originally told him) his company from the project (just as well, since I think GL was starting to get pissed that he had let his people & equipment do Galactica when he wound up having Fox sue them over similarities.)

The rest of GALACTICA was shot by the newly-formed Universal Hartland facility, which also did all of BUCK. A woman who died fairly young, Jena Holman, did some really great matte shots for BUCK (and later for THE RIGHT STUFF and THE DAY AFTER), and Hartland worked on other forgettable stuff like the first GET SMART movie, THE NUDE BOMB.

I think their last credit was the horrible to the point of being funny CONCORDE AIRPORT 79, which had some incredibly shoddy optical work (much less time to do the work than even TFF had, and it shows.) There's also a model Concorde landing in mid-film that looks like it was done with a kid's toy and shot from an adult's perspective, it is seriously godawful, but I think that may have been done by other folks, because that sequence isn't mentioned in the AMERICAN CINEMATOGRAPHER coverage of the VFX.

If there are any folks who would like to know more, go to that STARLOG online resource and look up issue 27 (my alltime favorite issue of the mag by far, have bought it and rebought it often down through the years), which has a piece on Hartland, another on Magicam's involvement with TMP, and another on VFX for ALIEN.
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