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Old December 12 2013, 12:53 AM   #31
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Re: Dumb blog in defense of texting while driving

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While I do not support texting while driving in any way, I would like to thank Apple for adding the ability to text via dictation to iPhones. It makes it slightly less dangerous.
Agreed. Couple that with a car's bluetooth system, get it on all phones, and people can text to their heart's content. Just keep your eyes on the damn road.
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Old December 12 2013, 01:34 AM   #32
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the Department of Transportation has granted a $550,000 grant to discover possible ways of catching it.
Most smart phones have gps. using gps if the phone determines that the user is is traveling between 20mph and 200mph it disables the texting function. QED. Where do I collect the $550k?

FYI, the upper limit on the speed allows airline passengers to still text.
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Old December 12 2013, 01:37 AM   #33
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Re: Dumb blog in defense of texting while driving

That's a spammer, guys. The link leads to a car dealership.
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Old December 12 2013, 03:12 AM   #34
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Re: Dumb blog in defense of texting while driving

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the Department of Transportation has granted a $550,000 grant to discover possible ways of catching it.
Most smart phones have gps. using gps if the phone determines that the user is is traveling between 20mph and 200mph it disables the texting function. QED. Where do I collect the $550k?

FYI, the upper limit on the speed allows airline passengers to still text.
Uhh don't airlines have you turn off your cellphones?
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Old December 12 2013, 03:21 AM   #35
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Re: Dumb blog in defense of texting while driving

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the Department of Transportation has granted a $550,000 grant to discover possible ways of catching it.
Most smart phones have gps. using gps if the phone determines that the user is is traveling between 20mph and 200mph it disables the texting function. QED. Where do I collect the $550k?

FYI, the upper limit on the speed allows airline passengers to still text.
Uhh don't airlines have you turn off your cellphones?
Not anymore.
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Old December 12 2013, 06:12 AM   #36
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Re: Dumb blog in defense of texting while driving

"many carriers will prove to the FAA that their planes allow passengers to safely use their devices in airplane mode, gate-to-gate, by the end of the year."

Texting won't work in airplane mode.
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Old December 12 2013, 06:39 AM   #37
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Re: Dumb blog in defense of texting while driving

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"many carriers will prove to the FAA that their planes allow passengers to safely use their devices in airplane mode, gate-to-gate, by the end of the year."

Texting won't work in airplane mode.
Airplanes have wifi. try again.
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Old December 12 2013, 07:19 AM   #38
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Ok, nevermind, I guess you idea is truly brilliant for the people whose phones leave wifi on in airplane mode, are configured to send SMS over wifi, and who want to pay for in-flight wifi towards that purpose.
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Old December 12 2013, 11:25 AM   #39
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Re: Dumb blog in defense of texting while driving

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Ok, nevermind, I guess you idea is truly brilliant for the people whose phones leave wifi on in airplane mode, are configured to send SMS over wifi, and who want to pay for in-flight wifi towards that purpose.
Seeing as your opening statement was completely wrong
Uhh don't airlines have you turn off your cellphones?
And Sojourner buried the others, how much further do you plan to keep running with those goal posts?
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Old December 12 2013, 02:29 PM   #40
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Ok, nevermind, I guess you idea is truly brilliant for the people whose phones leave wifi on in airplane mode, are configured to send SMS over wifi, and who want to pay for in-flight wifi towards that purpose.
Since cellular signals don't reach up to an airplane's cruising altitude, wifi is their only option.
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Old December 12 2013, 02:48 PM   #41
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Re: Dumb blog in defense of texting while driving

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Ok, nevermind, I guess you idea is truly brilliant for the people whose phones leave wifi on in airplane mode, are configured to send SMS over wifi, and who want to pay for in-flight wifi towards that purpose.
Since cellular signals don't reach up to an airplane's cruising altitude, wifi is their only option.
But what about all of those cell-towers hiding in the clouds 6 miles off the ground?
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Old December 12 2013, 02:57 PM   #42
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Re: Dumb blog in defense of texting while driving

If you want to call that moving the goalposts, that's your prerogative, I'd call it clarification. The basic point I was making, which I thought was obvious even with my poor wording, was that it was a pretty bizarre exception added to his surely-joking suggestion about speed restrictions.

So, yes, sorry, you don't have to have your cell phone powered down during a flight, the way I worded that was wrong even ignoring the new gate-to-gate electronics (which I had completely forgotten about).
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Old December 12 2013, 02:58 PM   #43
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Re: Dumb blog in defense of texting while driving

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the Department of Transportation has granted a $550,000 grant to discover possible ways of catching it.
Most smart phones have gps. using gps if the phone determines that the user is is traveling between 20mph and 200mph it disables the texting function. QED. Where do I collect the $550k?

FYI, the upper limit on the speed allows airline passengers to still text.
What about trains and passengers in cars?

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are configured to send SMS over wifi
Perhaps not SMS, but at least on iPhones, instant messages (over any network) are used instead of SMS text messages whenever possible. The app seamlessly switches between them.
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Old December 12 2013, 03:25 PM   #44
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Re: Dumb blog in defense of texting while driving

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Ok, nevermind, I guess you idea is truly brilliant for the people whose phones leave wifi on in airplane mode, are configured to send SMS over wifi, and who want to pay for in-flight wifi towards that purpose.
Since cellular signals don't reach up to an airplane's cruising altitude, wifi is their only option.
I never tried it. I would have guessed you'd occasionally connect to cell towers long enough for it to handle text delivery. But I'll defer to your expertise. I feel like I've gotten some cell signal several miles out from a tower in rural Minnesota with decent line of site before. Is that a bullshit observation and I was much closer than I thought? Is cruising altitude unfavorable for cell transmissions for some reason? Do cell tower antennas just not direct signal upwards?
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Old December 12 2013, 03:29 PM   #45
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Re: Dumb blog in defense of texting while driving

Cell towers have wide ranges with no consistent number as it can depend on a number of factors. It can range from a few miles to dozens of miles. I would think for best efficiency the signals are directed to stay at ground level but I guess it could also be sphere around the tower.

The problem I see is that a plane is traveling at several hundred miles an hour meaning the phone is going to be pretty much going in and out of areas of coverage pretty quickly probably too quickly to maintain a consistent signal.
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