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Old July 9 2013, 01:09 PM   #16
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Re: Federation Tactical Fleets

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Well, we knew that the combined 2nd and 5th fleet that took back DS9 weren't full examples of the entire fleet. The combined task force had elements from each fleet, but these fleets had remaining ships that did not participate in the battle.
The original plan was to have elements, but we never saw the original plan. Damar states that the 2nd and 5th Fleets had moved to Starbase 375 and given that Sisko had to launch with what he had it is possible that the group he took was more or less the entirety of both fleets.
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Old July 10 2013, 11:47 PM   #17
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And a Task Force seems to consist of mere dozens of ships - which TNG "Redemption" already establishes as far too low a number to perform offensive operations. So both designations probably have their place in the Starfleet terminological hierarchy, which in this sense appears to closely resemble the good old US Navy one.

Actually on Call to Arms, the Federation/Klingon task force was exceptionally larger than 12 ships. So the reality is it doesn't seem like there's a limit to number of ships for a task force designation. It appears that the number of ships are variable per fleet and task force. What's significant is a task force appears to be composed of a mixture of ships from different fleets or different races. And a fleet is only federation ships. In my opinion, you could call a fleet 5 ships or more, and the fleets 1-10 are heard of more because they were the ones of consequence. Meaning they were large enough and deployed at offensive fronts.
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Old July 11 2013, 08:19 PM   #18
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To nitpick, we never saw the task force that devastated the Dominion yards; there was nothing to establish that the big collection of ships at the end of the episode would have been this task force, or part of that task force, or would have included that task force.

What we do know about the task force is that it managed to destroy some fifty enemy ships. Does this mean it was more than fifty ships strong itself? Not necessarily, as the implication was that those ships would have been moored or under repairs - the whole point of Sisko telling the Dominion that he was about to mine shut the wormhole appeared to be that this lured the combat forces of the Dominion away from the precious dockyards, leaving only inferior units behind.

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