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Old February 26 2014, 01:27 AM   #1
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Upscale Merchandise

Why doesn't STAR TREK merchandise ever seem to have anything "upscale"? Meaning not kitsch, like a Captain Kirk cookie jar. Something along the lines of Picard's fish tank, in his Ready Room, for example. Or even furniture. Merchandise that's from STAR TREK, but doesn't scream STAR TREK. You'd basically have to tell someone, or they would never know it was based off of a Television show.
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Old February 26 2014, 09:22 AM   #2
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Re: Upscale Merchandise

How about a line of those nifty wall-mounted lights that seemed to be everywhere. The only thing that would give them away as being from Star Trek would be the graphics on them.
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Old February 26 2014, 09:57 AM   #3
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Why doesn't STAR TREK merchandise ever seem to have anything "upscale"? Meaning not kitsch, like a Captain Kirk cookie jar. Something along the lines of Picard's fish tank, in his Ready Room, for example. Or even furniture. Merchandise that's from STAR TREK, but doesn't scream STAR TREK.
Because licensees want to make merchandise that does scream STAR TREK.
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Old February 26 2014, 12:34 PM   #4
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Why doesn't STAR TREK merchandise ever seem to have anything "upscale"? Meaning not kitsch, like a Captain Kirk cookie jar. Something along the lines of Picard's fish tank, in his Ready Room, for example. Or even furniture. Merchandise that's from STAR TREK, but doesn't scream STAR TREK.
Because licensees want to make merchandise that does scream STAR TREK.
"I ... see your point." But does everything have to be so tacky? So cheezy? So vulgar and tasteless? Everything from SHIRTLESS KIRK calogne to a pizza cutter in the shape of the ENTERPRISE. Just slapping STAR TREK on an incense holder ... to get the word out? Outside of the toys and action figures, alot of these other products don't seem to represent the quality of the franchise, itself, at all.
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Old February 26 2014, 12:36 PM   #5
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How about a line of those nifty wall-mounted lights that seemed to be everywhere. The only thing that would give them away as being from Star Trek would be the graphics on them.
I can't visualize this, right now. I will have to get back to you on that
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Old February 26 2014, 01:18 PM   #6
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2takesfrakes wrote: View Post
You'd basically have to tell someone, or they would never know it was based off of a Television show.
Can't you just do that with your regular furniture?

"Yeah, I got this at the "It's A Wrap" auction, it's the couch from season four, episode six, the one from that alien's office. You saw it in two different scenes."


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Old February 26 2014, 03:31 PM   #7
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Re: Upscale Merchandise

I suppose the closest we could get to what 2TakesFrakes is hinting at here would be if someone made a replica of the 3D chess set from The Original Series, which I could easily imagine sitting on a table in someone's den, without any vistor being aware that it was from Star Trek specifically. I suspect it'd have a stylistic simplicity of it's very own that would allow it to stand alone as a decorative piece.

I do know the Franklin Mint did sell one made out of silver and gold (and a pretty penny it cost too!), but whether that added Bling nudges it into tacky territory is another question.
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Old February 26 2014, 04:02 PM   #8
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Re: Upscale Merchandise

2takesfrakes wrote: View Post
But does everything have to be so tacky? So cheezy? So vulgar and tasteless?
https://store.qmxonline.com/TOS-Art-...ies-_c_44.html
http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Tri-.../dp/B0018S4WM0

Not tacky, not "cheezy", not vulgar, not tasteless.

There's quality material out there. Look for it.
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Old February 26 2014, 04:08 PM   #9
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Re: Upscale Merchandise

I immediately had to think about this website with some cool ideas: http://davesgeekyideas.com/tag/star-trek/

Other than that I think household items used as props in Star Trek could qualify as upscale merchandise.

Such as the Porsche Jazz lamp used in ST VI for the Starfleet HQ conference (and in TNG) or that German thermos flask Quark used to fill up drinks at his bar in DS9.

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Old February 26 2014, 04:19 PM   #10
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Re: Upscale Merchandise

Misfit Toy wrote: View Post
2takesfrakes wrote: View Post
But does everything have to be so tacky? So cheezy? So vulgar and tasteless?
https://store.qmxonline.com/TOS-Art-...ies-_c_44.html
http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Tri-.../dp/B0018S4WM0

Not tacky, not "cheezy", not vulgar, not tasteless.

There's quality material out there. Look for it.
I agree.

I get the feeling that the OP is just trying to stir things up a bit and cause a little bit of a fracas. I happen to like my Spock cookie jar, thank you very much.
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Old February 26 2014, 06:21 PM   #11
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There are indeed resources particularly on forums like this that have a vast amount of information regarding set pieces used on Trek. From glassware to tables and chairs. The stuff is out there and as stated here in this thread you just have to look for it.
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Old February 26 2014, 07:58 PM   #12
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I used to have a LCARS sheet, the kind they backlit for the set, large enough to have been on one of the back stations on the E-D. I think it was from when they built the ST experience in Vegas. A guy out there sent it to me when I built him a bunch of models. Then life happened, & it got cleaned out with a bunch of stuff in a storage unit when I couldn't pay the bill.
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Old February 26 2014, 08:33 PM   #13
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These are only some examples of what I am referring to by "Upscale" items, as opposed to the cheap, knick knack items I've mentioned.

The tea set, which Picard used is/was sold commercially. The fish tank in Picard's ready room is also commecially available and costs roughly a thousand dollars, I believe. The "meditation crystal" is just a prop, as far as I know, but would be very nice to own. None of these have STAR TREK all over them. They are useful and/or functional and could serve a purpose other than just collecting dust. But I will look further, that presents no problem. I just had not seen this mentioned here, before.
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Old February 26 2014, 08:34 PM   #14
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I get the feeling that the OP is just trying to stir things up a bit and cause a little bit of a fracas.
Uh ... yeah. Okay.
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Old February 26 2014, 09:02 PM   #15
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These are only some examples of what I am referring to by "Upscale" items, as opposed to the cheap, knick knack items I've mentioned.

The tea set, which Picard used is/was sold commercially. The fish tank in Picard's ready room is also commecially available and costs roughly a thousand dollars, I believe. The "meditation crystal" is just a prop, as far as I know, but would be very nice to own. None of these have STAR TREK all over them. They are useful and/or functional and could serve a purpose other than just collecting dust. But I will look further, that presents no problem. I just had not seen this mentioned here, before.
Why would a company pay the thousands of dollars it costs to get the Star Trek licensing to slap a logo on the box of a product they already produce.

In the early 2000's I was talking to a few Star Trek licensees and for them to use the Star Trek brand it cost tens of thousands of dollars (I want to say the number was $38K, but varies depending on the type of license). You would have to sell a whole lot units to make up a cost like that, and you'd risk alienating your existing customers who don't want a Star Trek branded product in their home.
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