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Old July 2 2013, 10:40 AM   #46
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Re: Satisfying Cancelled Show Endings

I thought this was about "cancelled" shows, DS9, Voyager, Buffy etc weren't cancelled, they just ended naturally.
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Old July 2 2013, 11:46 AM   #47
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Re: Satisfying Cancelled Show Endings

Sixth Doctor Who's show coming back as a zombie for one more season, constructed as an elaborate insult at the BBC.
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Old July 2 2013, 03:30 PM   #48
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Fringe ended very well, i think. Not so much about the overall plot archs, but the character moments.

It was especially good for Astrid, who was VITAL in helping the team win the battle....and she had an amazing goodbye with Walter, making it a real father-daughter type of relationship (especially with Walter remembering her name onpurpose).

Fringe wasn't canceled, it ended.

Damages season 3 was actually a better ending for the show than what we ended up getting.
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Old July 2 2013, 04:49 PM   #49
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Fringe wasn't canceled, it ended.
Sort of in between, actually. "Canceled" is when the network ends the show (due to low ratings/high costs, usually) before the producers feel it's reached its natural endpoint. "Ended" is when the producers choose to wrap it up. Fringe is a case where the network decided that the ratings weren't good enough to keep making the show any longer, but they were very supportive of the producers and fond of the show, and thus agreed to give them one more half-season to conclude the story. So it was kind of a "cushioned cancellation," you could say. (Kind of like what Warehouse 13 is getting -- the network decided to end it prematurely, but is giving them a 6-episode mini-season to wrap it up next year.)
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Old July 3 2013, 04:59 PM   #50
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And thank god we got the Peacekeeper Wars for Farscape.

Sarah Connor frustrated me. I wanted to know what happened next.
Same here. Too bad it couldn't be continued in a novel....

Or could it?

Hint, hint....
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Old July 3 2013, 05:52 PM   #51
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I thought Carnivāle had a very satisfying ending despite it's open-ended conclusion, which was a natural result of the first two season intended be the first of three chapters. Sure, we don't get answers like "Did Jonesy survive?" or "How will Brother Justin and Ben recover and face-off again?" but what otherwise, the show had a clear beginning, middle, and end in the first two seasons, which is probably why HBO was fine with cancelling it. Daniel Knauf has since mentioned in interviews (including one this year at A.V. Club) about the different character fates and how the show would have progressed in general.
Agree 100%. As much as I'd love to see the other prospective two "volumes" of two seasons each, Carnivāle was a beautiful nightmare of a show, and no dream ever really lasts long enough to resolve all its plot points. In a way, Carnivāle's abrupt ending is perfect.



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Lastly, I think Rome had a solid conclusion after just two seasons, although the show did get some forewarning, hence the fast-tracked timeline in the second half of the season.
Agreed again. The climactic accelerated plot pace perfectly fit Team Antony's sense of spiraling out of control.
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Old July 3 2013, 11:48 PM   #52
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And thank god we got the Peacekeeper Wars for Farscape.

Sarah Connor frustrated me. I wanted to know what happened next.
Same here. Too bad it couldn't be continued in a novel....

Or could it?

Hint, hint....
Alas, some publisher would have to acquire the rights first, which would be a tough sell, given that the TV show has been off the air for a few years now.
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Old July 4 2013, 07:57 AM   #53
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There's no need for novels, anyway. The comic follow-up has been great. (I'm not close to being finished collecting it, though, now that it's over).
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Old July 4 2013, 01:53 PM   #54
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So a complete lack of a conclusion counts as a "satisfying conclusion"?
What I said was that it was a more satisfying conclusion than the movie version. Honestly, despite killing off two principals, Serenity doesn't have much more of a feeling of finality to it than the series. Given the choice, I think the last scene in "Objects in Space" is a better way to go out than anything in the movie, which missed the tone of much of the series and didn't handle the ensemble particularly well.
I disagree with that. The resolution of River's story was a big part of the movie. Simon and Kaylee had some resolution as well.

As for the tone, I agree it was somewhat different, but I think that was placed in a clear context. They were more desperate, and the stakes were much higher (smuggling cows doesn't really compare to the murder of an entire planet).

I thought Serenity was a fitting ending (if it had to end), far more than Objects in Space (which was a good episode, though).

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Old July 4 2013, 02:09 PM   #55
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And thank god we got the Peacekeeper Wars for Farscape.

Sarah Connor frustrated me. I wanted to know what happened next.
Same here. Too bad it couldn't be continued in a novel....

Or could it?

Hint, hint....
Alas, some publisher would have to acquire the rights first, which would be a tough sell, given that the TV show has been off the air for a few years now.
I actually already figured it was something like that. I just figured that since you're a fan of the franchise like me, AND you're a writer, you would appreciate the sentiment.
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Old July 4 2013, 04:01 PM   #56
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"The Judgement" (part two) was a great finale--its no wonder it held the record for the highest rated TV episode for so long (before the M*A*S*H finale, anyway).


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I have to disagree. The problem with the season arc/"ultimate battle/everyone is in danger" plots is that one already knows the series stars are not in real danger (Young Justice used this kind of plotting, at a time when it was long stale).

Luthor and Darkseid's fate was a too convenient wrap-up, and come on--the JL gives the villains a head start to escape just because they helped save earth?
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Old July 4 2013, 04:39 PM   #57
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Same here. Too bad it couldn't be continued in a novel....

Or could it?

Hint, hint....
Alas, some publisher would have to acquire the rights first, which would be a tough sell, given that the TV show has been off the air for a few years now.
I actually already figured it was something like that. I just figured that since you're a fan of the franchise like me, AND you're a writer, you would appreciate the sentiment.
Absolutely. This just struck me as another good opportunity to explain that these projects tend to be initiated by the licensors and/or publishers, not the writers.

Believe it or not, this is a fairly common misconception, which I run into a lot at book-signings and on-line:

"I really like GRIMM. Why don't you write a GRIMM novel?"

Or, worse yet:

"I've written a Sarah Connor novel. How do I get it published?"
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Old July 5 2013, 06:21 PM   #58
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Re: Satisfying Cancelled Show Endings

As several others have said, the Caprica finale was pretty good. Another good conclusion was when Jericho was canceled for the second time. After getting canceled on a cliffhanger the first time and then getting a new lease on life, I appreciate that they filmed some extra stuff so their season two finale could be easily and quickly adapted to a series finale.
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