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The Next Generation All Good Things come to an end...but not here.

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Old July 4 2014, 09:58 AM   #616
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Re: Season FIVE OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread

Minor VFX goof in the remastered Darmok, going by the EAS Observations article.
Look at the (*counts*)... I think it's 30th observation down, titled "two final shots of the El-Adrel IV creature", and look at the remastered version of the shot of Picard being beamed away from the creature.

Notice that the transporter sparkles don't quite reach the top of his head? There's a defined line where it looks like the effect layer has been cut short or wasn't large enough to fit the matted area. You'd probably never notice it in watching, but there it is.


I am, however, flabbergasted by how good the ships look in orbit of the planet. I don't know how they've made them blend into the shot so well (lighting, bloom, softened edges, I guess?), but it's amazing what a difference modern compositing can make. Stunning work.
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Old July 9 2014, 01:44 AM   #617
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Call me stupid but I never actually realised that was a lame movie era warp effect at the start of redemption pt 2.

Now its in HD I realise the original fx crew cheaped out of giving us a proper tng style rubber band effect chronologically about 80 years after that style of warp engine was last used. (And nothing in the dialogue suggests kurn's BOP was out of date at the time)

Not that I'm suggesting the restoration crew couldve fixed that (probabaly taken up too much of their budget allotment on one shot of the BOP rubber banding itself out of there, but still, another weak job from the original fx crew.
Was it the first ever job for the new company that were about to make the famous Darmok phaser error?
That would explain a lot! (Ie they just watched The Voyage Home as their research and didnt bother updating their reference points)
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Old July 9 2014, 10:19 AM   #618
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Do we ever see Klingon ships "rubber-banding" into warp speed? Who's to say it's a sign of the era rather than a style? NX-01 rubber-banded into warp 200 years earlier!
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Old July 17 2014, 01:12 AM   #619
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Do we ever see Klingon ships "rubber-banding" into warp speed? Who's to say it's a sign of the era rather than a style? NX-01 rubber-banded into warp 200 years earlier!
No it didn't, NX01's warp effect was closer to that Klingon/movie era warp effect in reality, along with the TNG blue flash and subspace star.

Racking my brains, the only time we've seen Klingon ships rubber band was the huge one in Shattered Mirror and the BOP Kor commandeered for his heroic sacrifice in DS9

So, you know, they can do it.
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Old July 17 2014, 11:39 AM   #620
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Hmm, I just checked the Enterprise intro and you're right, it's more of a streak and flash with no apparent stretching.
However, the Phoenix from First Contact definitely does a small amount of stretching before its warp jump. I may have been thinking of that.
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Old July 27 2014, 02:32 AM   #621
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Does Cause and Effect look any better, FX-wise?

I'm rewatching it via Amazon on my X-Box, and it says it's HD, but I'm not 100% sure. When the Enterprise explodes is really really looks like a model each time.
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Does Cause and Effect look any better, FX-wise?

I'm rewatching it via Amazon on my X-Box, and it says it's HD, but I'm not 100% sure. When the Enterprise explodes is really really looks like a model each time.
If they used the original film elements, then it is a model exploding each time. HD or not.
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Old July 27 2014, 07:03 AM   #623
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What jumps out to me now with the Cause and Effect pyrotechnics is the bussard collector that flies off. It's clearly a painted piece of a model, with a bright red tip with a yellow sheath. It wasn't apparent in SD, but really pops now.
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Old July 27 2014, 12:24 PM   #624
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The explosions were made with very cheap copies of the 1701-D model - since they needed to be prepared for a couple of reshoots. In HD of course it shows how cheap and quickly these models to blow up were done.
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