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Old November 9 2013, 03:25 AM   #196
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Old November 9 2013, 03:43 AM   #197
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Well that's pretty disappointing.
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Old November 9 2013, 03:55 AM   #198
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I know I'm spoiled and I know they would have tried their best to locate it, but I am definitely disappointed. Three minutes of SD upscale is way beyond what I was expecting. I wish they would have said something long before now so I could at least get used to the idea.
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Old November 9 2013, 04:02 AM   #199
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Thankfully "Power Play" isn't a good episode.
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Old November 9 2013, 04:24 AM   #200
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There's also one minute missing from The First Duty.
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Old November 9 2013, 04:54 AM   #201
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I wonder so much footage is missing from this season, but not from the earlier ones?

(Granted, in this case "so much" is four minutes out of several hundred...)
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Old November 9 2013, 05:02 AM   #202
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Wow, three minutes? That's really bad. Three seconds here and there, fine, but entire scenes? CBS-D must feel pretty awful about that.

I hope they find it sometime and do a disc replacement.
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Old November 9 2013, 05:48 AM   #203
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Bummer.
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Old November 9 2013, 08:50 AM   #204
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Well that sucks major ass.
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Old November 9 2013, 12:01 PM   #205
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I wonder so much footage is missing from this season, but not from the earlier ones?

(Granted, in this case "so much" is four minutes out of several hundred...)
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Wow, three minutes? That's really bad. Three seconds here and there, fine, but entire scenes? CBS-D must feel pretty awful about that.

I hope they find it sometime and do a disc replacement.
It's actually not four minutes or even three. The total is 2:20. There's about half a minute right at the start of "The First Duty" which is probably the most obvious and problematic material to upscale because it's a brightly-lit bridge scene... and then there are less than two minutes upconverted right in the middle of "Power Play" spread over about five or so shots. The longest portion lasts about a minute. It's when the possessed O'Brien first starts to harass Keiko. The rest are fairly quick shots that come and go before that. The good thing about the Ten Forward scenes are that they are lit low-key and are less obvious.
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Old November 9 2013, 01:33 PM   #206
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The upscaled passages are nowhere near as bad as you might think. They've done a VERY good job. At most, the sections just look like the camera-man has pulled a bad focus. CBSD have matched the grain very well to "blend-in" the affected parts. Maxwell Everett is right in that "The First Duty" segment is the worse of the two, but even that didn't pull me out of the episode too much.
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Old November 9 2013, 05:25 PM   #207
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For me this really isn't an issue, they've made the effort to match the SD shots to the new HD version. The film negative is missing, it can't be helped.
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Old November 9 2013, 05:30 PM   #208
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For me this really isn't an issue, they've made the effort to match the SD shots to the new HD version. The film negative is missing, it can't be helped.
Yup. It was bound to happen, but it's still too bad. Would be great if at some point those negatives can be found. Time will tell.
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Old November 9 2013, 07:00 PM   #209
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Wow, three minutes? That's really bad. Three seconds here and there, fine, but entire scenes? CBS-D must feel pretty awful about that.

I hope they find it sometime and do a disc replacement.
Even if they do locate the original footage - there's not a chance in hell a free disc replacement program will be offered.
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Old November 9 2013, 08:59 PM   #210
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Why not? There's already a precedent for disc replacement. They even replaced a disc from season 1 that had missing VFX even though it didn't have the audio errors that caused the replacement in the first place.
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