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Old June 28 2013, 12:51 PM   #16
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Re: Does the Doctor age?

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One of the things I suggest to a friend was that you could justify the fact that the reason each of the regenerated Doctors seemed to get younger is that as a Time Lord approaches their 13th (and presumeably final) regeneration, the process extends life by giving more youth in the hopes of running out the clock. One might event suggest that the 13th regeneration would completely reset the Doctor's proverbial clock and he comes back as a baby in the hopes of having a long but relatively normal final lifespan. Thus a Time Lords life cycle would come full circle.
Well certainly the three modern doctors have got younger as they regenerated, but this hasn’t always been the case, in fact I think it goes younger/older/younger/younger/older/older/younger/older/younger/younger and if the 12th Doctor is older than Smith this will break the modern cycle.
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Old June 28 2013, 04:07 PM   #17
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Re: Does the Doctor age?

Beyond just whether the Doctor ages, the larger question is, do Time Lords (and Ladies) in general age?

If you look at the stories set on Gallifrey, you see plenty of older Time Lords. So, unless they regenerate into old bodies, they must age.

It seems unlikely that they'd regenerate into older bodies because that defeats regeneration's purpose of extending their lives, as well as for comfort reasons alone!

Also, I seem to remember one older Time Lord talking to another older Time Lord in Deadly Assassin (I think), about a regenerating into a younger body due to aging.

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Old June 28 2013, 04:10 PM   #18
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Re: Does the Doctor age?

Here are the age differences between the last screen appearance of one Doctor and the first appearance of the next (going by airdate, not production date, so some may be a bit high):

"The Tenth Planet": Hartnell: 58 / Troughton: 46
"The War Games"/"Spearhead from Space": Troughton: 49 / Pertwee: 50
"Planet of the Spiders": Pertwee: 54 / T. Baker: 40
"Logopolis": T. Baker: 47 / Davison: 29
"The Caves of Androzani": Davison: 32 / C. Baker: 40
"The Ultimate Foe"/"Time and the Rani": C. Baker: 43 / McCoy: 44
Doctor Who (movie): McCoy: 52 / McGann: 36
Doctor Who/"Rose": McGann: 36 / Eccleston: 41
"The Parting of the Ways": Eccleston: 41 / Tennant: 34
"The End of Time": Tennant: 38 / Smith: 27

So you're technically right about the sequence, Starkers, but McCoy is actually 2 1/2 months younger than Colin Baker; it's just that there was a gap of 10 months between Baker's last appearance and McCoy's first. If Baker had returned for his regeneration sequence, they would've both been 44. And Pertwee was only 8 1/2 months older than Troughton. So I'd say there were two cases where successive Doctors were approximately the same age. Not to mention that McGann is 4 years older than Eccleston in real life; it's just that there's a huge gap between their respective appearances.

All in all, I'd say the only substantial upward jump in age was from the Fifth Doctor to the Sixth; all the others regenerations either made the Doctor younger (more than a decade younger in five cases) or kept him approximately the same age.
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Old June 28 2013, 10:17 PM   #19
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Re: Does the Doctor age?

Well re Baker/McCoy I was right, from the perspective I was looking at it from, which is the age of each actor when they take the role, hence Baker was 40 and McCoy was 43/44 when they took the role on. I think that's the only corssover where it actually makes much of a different. So from my point of view even if they replace Smith with a 30 year old, he'll be an older Doctor because he will be older than Smith was when he started, even though he'd be younger than Smith will be when he leaves.

If that makes sense
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Old June 28 2013, 11:14 PM   #20
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What I like to think is that the doctor isn't actually 1200 at all, he's actually relatively younger than what we thought, he just think time goes faster than it really does. So Matt Smiths 200 year break may have actually only been a few months. it just felt like 200 years to him, also the TARDIS maybe makes time feel distorted. I like to think the Doctors not even 200 yet.
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Old June 28 2013, 11:27 PM   #21
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Re: Does the Doctor age?

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What I like to think is that the doctor isn't actually 1200 at all, he's actually relatively younger than what we thought, he just think time goes faster than it really does. So Matt Smiths 200 year break may have actually only been a few months. it just felt like 200 years to him, also the TARDIS maybe makes time feel distorted. I like to think the Doctors not even 200 yet.
I think this makes sense, though 200 might be a bit on the low end. I think it's possible that after a while he'd just stop keeping track of birthdays (or days in general), especially since he really has no reason to keep a Gallifreyan calendar around. I mean, we see this from Amy and Rory's final arc in Season 7. They go of and have random adventures, but they really have no concept of how much time is actually passing on Earth.

The 200 year jump in Matt Smith's run is especially telling, I think. I don't care how old or Time Lordy you are; if you go 200 years without seeing your friends, you're not going to treat them as if you just saw them a week ago. Hell, you probably wouldn't even remember what they look like.
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Old June 28 2013, 11:42 PM   #22
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Actually, funny thing, I've always felt the reverse, that his life is so fast paced and frenetic that he doesn't realize how much time has passed. I've frequently said Nine could've lived for 100s of years before meeting Rose and just never slowed down long enough to see his reflection until he meets her. I just can't imagine anyone travelling through time frnetically and constantly bouncing from one adventure to the next for years (or centuries) and having any clue how much time has passed. As you say, Amy and Rory don't feel like 10 years has passed, but they know it has from their friends commenting on their aging.
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Re: Does the Doctor age?

Baised on on-screen and dialog evidence, I would guess that the answer is *YES* - but at a much slower rate than humans.

The 11th Doctor went from "900" (though I think he was lying about his age then, he should ave been older) - to 1100...and then some. All looking the same.

But as pointed out before, the 7th Doctor did seem to age visibly by the TV movie.
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