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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Generations 24 19.05%
First Contact 7 5.56%
Insurrection 37 29.37%
Nemesis 58 46.03%
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Old July 17 2013, 01:12 AM   #61
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All of them. I've got the movie box set, but the only ones I reach for to re-watch is Khan and the Undiscovered Country.

I'd rather watch The Final Frontier than sit through Generations.

that's just amazing to me. I've been on these boards a while, and I still don't get the "Generations" hate. It's not up there with my favorites, but it's solid and enjoyable, and about right in the middle of the pack.

TFF is just a mess.
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Old July 17 2013, 01:48 AM   #62
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Nemesis - too many plot holes, stupid dune buggy nonsense, and it ripped off elements of other trek films.
I completely understand the hate for Insurrection, but at least the scenery was nice.
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Old July 17 2013, 11:22 AM   #63
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What are all these plot holes in NEM people keep referring too?

I understand the Data/B-4 one.
The Shinzon clone and time of creation being the most problematic.

What else though?
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Old July 17 2013, 01:38 PM   #64
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All of them. I've got the movie box set, but the only ones I reach for to re-watch is Khan and the Undiscovered Country.

I'd rather watch The Final Frontier than sit through Generations.

that's just amazing to me. I've been on these boards a while, and I still don't get the "Generations" hate. It's not up there with my favorites, but it's solid and enjoyable, and about right in the middle of the pack.

TFF is just a mess.
It sure is. A beautiful mess that happens to have some of the best Kirk-Spock-McCoy interplay since the series. Generations is a bore.
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Old July 17 2013, 02:15 PM   #65
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It sure is. A beautiful mess that happens to have some of the best Kirk-Spock-McCoy interplay since the series.
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Old July 17 2013, 06:02 PM   #66
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All of them. I've got the movie box set, but the only ones I reach for to re-watch is Khan and the Undiscovered Country.

I'd rather watch The Final Frontier than sit through Generations.

that's just amazing to me. I've been on these boards a while, and I still don't get the "Generations" hate. It's not up there with my favorites, but it's solid and enjoyable, and about right in the middle of the pack.

TFF is just a mess.
It sure is. A beautiful mess that happens to have some of the best Kirk-Spock-McCoy interplay since the series. Generations is a bore.

I agree about the interplay of the Big Three. Good music too, and there's a real TOS feel to it.


I struggle to understand Generations being described as a "bore," though. It's got the destruction of the Enterprise-D, the death of Captain Kirk, etc.
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Old July 18 2013, 02:00 AM   #67
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Nemesis is defintely for me the worst of the tng movies. Star trek generations (great solid fun movie) best part:when data gets emotions
worst part:kirk death scene
Star trek first contact: truly great star trek movie and my personal favorite. Best part: everything
worst part: If I had to choose one it would be the scenes with data and the borg queen.
Star trek insurrection (felt like a extended episode from the seventh season)
Star trek nemisis (terrible movie felt forced almost as bad as final frontier)
best part:none
worst part:everything
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Old July 18 2013, 03:50 PM   #68
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I struggle to understand Generations being described as a "bore," though. It's got the destruction of the Enterprise-D, the death of Captain Kirk, etc.
No one acted like they cared about the Enterprise being trashed and Kirk's death was underwhelming. The film had no emotional hook to it, at least for me.

If I'm not attached emotionally, it doesn't matter how many action set pieces they string together it'll be dull. In my opinion.
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Old July 18 2013, 09:44 PM   #69
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Having just watched FC again, I'll say again that it's a truly fun action flick, but to me it's still not the best TNG film. But that's what I love about Star Trek, there's something for every one.
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Old July 19 2013, 03:35 AM   #70
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Insurrection. My explanation? IT CAN'T BE SAVED.

If fan-editor Anti-Matter has shown us anything, it's that there's hope for Generations, and hope for Nemesis. But Insurrection's flaws run SO DEEP that there's no hope for it. Just the very conception of its premise, the implications of the morale etc.

The other two have good premises, but bad execution, which can be corrected by a good fan-editor. And if you need any more reason, watch Linkara's review.
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Old July 19 2013, 03:47 AM   #71
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Insurrection. My explanation? IT CAN'T BE SAVED.

If fan-editor Anti-Matter has shown us anything, it's that there's hope for Generations, and hope for Nemesis. But Insurrection's flaws run SO DEEP that there's no hope for it. Just the very conception of its premise, the implications of the morale etc.

The other two have good premises, but bad execution, which can be corrected by a good fan-editor. And if you need any more reason, watch Linkara's review.

yes, I think you've hit on the key. It's the only one that really would require going back to the drawing board and doing a major re-write to fix.
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Old July 19 2013, 03:51 AM   #72
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I appreciate the feedback, Sonak.http://trekbbs.com/images/smilies/cool.gif
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Old July 19 2013, 07:39 AM   #73
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The only one I enjoy re-watching is Generations. I'm a Malcolm McDowell fan and enjoy his portrayl of Soran. Its also the first ST movie I went to see in the theater by myself, so it has a bit of a special place in my heart to me.

Worst for me, First Contact. Special effects were pretty bad, the story was hokey, the way the characters acted (especially those on Earth) seemed fake and annoying, and Cochrane was just too annoying for me as well. Also, I find it very hard to believe that Geordi and Riker were both part of the warp flight. Just seemed too cheesy for me.
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Old July 19 2013, 12:36 PM   #74
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I rewatch NEM more than INS because NEM's suckiness is kind of car crashy while INS is just boring as all crap. So I voted INS as my least favorite though I think NEM was a worse film.

FC was my favorite Trek film for years, but I overwatched it. I've always loved GEN.
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I struggle to understand Generations being described as a "bore," though. It's got the destruction of the Enterprise-D, the death of Captain Kirk, etc.
No one acted like they cared about the Enterprise being trashed and Kirk's death was underwhelming. The film had no emotional hook to it, at least for me.

If I'm not attached emotionally, it doesn't matter how many action set pieces they string together it'll be dull. In my opinion.
I will say that Patrick Stewart nailed the scene between Picard and Troi over the photo album but the rest of the film was so stale and lifeless.
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