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Old September 2 2013, 03:27 AM   #1
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Why would Nimoy not appear in Generations, but was in Nu-Trek?

I gather he didn't want to appear because there was nothing for his character to do (he was supposed to be on the enterprise B for a few minutes of screentime)

Yet in "into darkness" he pops up for 30 seconds in one of the most forced Cameos in cinematic history.

Anyone know why this is?
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Old September 2 2013, 03:55 AM   #2
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Re: Why would Nimoy not appear in Generations, but was in Nu-Trek?

Nimoy declined Generations stating that Spock did not make a significant contribution to the story.

Spock is critical and central to the story of ST2009.
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Old September 2 2013, 04:06 AM   #3
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Re: Why would Nimoy not appear in Generations, but was in Nu-Trek?

As for STID, Abrams called Nimoy in on a whim, asking for a favor and a few days of Nimoy's time. I can only Speculate on why Nimoy agreed. Perhaps it was out of respect for the man's contribution in ST09. Perhaps Nimoy did not have the other projects on his plate like he did back in the mid 90s.
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Old September 2 2013, 05:01 AM   #4
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Re: Why would Nimoy not appear in Generations, but was in Nu-Trek?

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Old September 2 2013, 07:01 AM   #5
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Re: Why would Nimoy not appear in Generations, but was in Nu-Trek?

He was also in the running to direct "Generations", and I suspect that (at least in part) his back-and-forth about the size of his cameo was about playing a negotiating game with the studio, to see just how much Rick Berman actually wanted him for the movie. By saying he wanted a larger role, he was also saying that, as director, he wanted a bigger hand in making changes to the script as well. Berman turned him down, possibly on the grounds that it was a tight schedule that couldn't accomodate too many rewrites, or possibly on the grounds that he didn't want the TOS characters to overshadow the TNG ones too much. So Nimoy walked from both the cameo and the director's chair.
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Old September 2 2013, 07:14 AM   #6
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Re: Why would Nimoy not appear in Generations, but was in Nu-Trek?

I think when he complained about his character not having a substantial role they offered him to direct in order to still get him to appear. He wanted to have the script rewritten if he was going to direct and they said no.

i guess they just wanted to make the movie real quickly.

As far as appearing in Abrams' Trek, I guess at his age by then, maybe he considers it an honor to even be asked?
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Old September 2 2013, 08:01 AM   #7
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Re: Why would Nimoy not appear in Generations, but was in Nu-Trek?

I think that Nimoy and Abrams have become very good friends. He was able to get Nimoy to come out of retirement several times to appear on Fringe.
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Old September 2 2013, 08:37 AM   #8
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Re: Why would Nimoy not appear in Generations, but was in Nu-Trek?

Because Generations was pretty lame, while ST09 was fantastic?
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Old September 2 2013, 09:52 AM   #9
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Re: Why would Nimoy not appear in Generations, but was in Nu-Trek?

Nimoy turned down Generations because the lines were so generic they could have come from anyone (and they eventually did come from Scotty, and McCoy's from Chekov). In Into Darkness, only Old Spock could have given such a warning about Khan to his younger self.

Plus, Nimoy likes Abrams.
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Old September 2 2013, 11:16 AM   #10
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Re: Why would Nimoy not appear in Generations, but was in Nu-Trek?

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Yup. Even Mr Nimoy needs to eat.
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Old September 2 2013, 12:02 PM   #11
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Re: Why would Nimoy not appear in Generations, but was in Nu-Trek?

Probably all of the above, and also I wouldn't be surprised Nimoy, despite saying how he is Shatner's friend now, still remembers their rivalry in the 1960s and part of him must relish the fact that he has been asked to do 2 cameos in the 2 reboot movies (thereby meaning his Spock has been in one more Star Trek feater film than Shatner's Kirk...I know he is in his 1980s but sometimes actors can be petty like that!), and since Abrams and Shatner despise each other, Shatner will never appear in a reboot movie, as long as Abrams has any say.
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Old September 2 2013, 12:52 PM   #12
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Re: Why would Nimoy not appear in Generations, but was in Nu-Trek?

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I think that Nimoy and Abrams have become very good friends. He was able to get Nimoy to come out of retirement several times to appear on Fringe.
Quinto, too. He and Nimoy are very close. The car commercial they did riffs on their real-life relationship.
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Old September 2 2013, 01:01 PM   #13
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Re: Why would Nimoy not appear in Generations, but was in Nu-Trek?

one of the extras on STID makes a point of how close Nimoy and JJ are...
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Old September 2 2013, 01:20 PM   #14
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Re: Why would Nimoy not appear in Generations, but was in Nu-Trek?

Apparently, Nimoy changed his mind.
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Old September 2 2013, 01:31 PM   #15
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I know he is in his 1980s but sometimes actors can be petty like that
Holy Crappola, that's old!
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