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View Poll Results: Who is the scariest villian?
Dukat 8 15.38%
Lore 1 1.92%
The Borg 23 44.23%
The Dominion 5 9.62%
Female Changling 1 1.92%
Weyoun 2 3.85%
Kai Winn 3 5.77%
KHHHHAAAAAAANNN 7 13.46%
The Holodeck 4 7.69%
Spcies 8427 4 7.69%
Klingons 0 0%
Romulans 2 3.85%
Future Guy 1 1.92%
Silik 0 0%
Other 7 13.46%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 52. You may not vote on this poll

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Old June 21 2013, 09:58 PM   #16
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Re: Who is the scariest Star Trek villian?

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He killed the entire Romulan Senate and is responsible for the death of Data as well.
That's not scary as much as it is bad storytelling. How would someone smuggle a mini-weapon of mass destruction into the Romulan Senate to kill dozens of loyal citizens? A people as paranoid as the Romulans would have searched her up, down, and sideways before letting her through the door.

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Old June 21 2013, 10:01 PM   #17
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In the real world, people who make statements like that are real damn scary.


Irrelevant. People who make statements like that are not a poll option.
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Old June 21 2013, 10:02 PM   #18
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Carcazoid wrote: View Post
In the real world, people who make statements like that are real damn scary.


Irrelevant. People who make statements like that are not a poll option.
I hate to repeat myself, but
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Old June 21 2013, 10:18 PM   #19
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How about the Vidiians, coming around to steal your organs and face and skin?

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Old June 21 2013, 11:17 PM   #20
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The fans.
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Old June 22 2013, 01:26 AM   #21
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How would someone smuggle a mini-weapon of mass destruction into the Romulan Senate to kill dozens of loyal citizens?
Tal'aura being a senator likely made it quite easy to simply walk the device in.




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Old June 22 2013, 01:34 AM   #22
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How would someone smuggle a mini-weapon of mass destruction into the Romulan Senate to kill dozens of loyal citizens?
[FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Tal'aura[/SIZE][/FONT] being a [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]senator likely made it quite easy to simply walk the device in.[/FONT][/SIZE]
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Well that was not at all hard to read.
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Old June 22 2013, 01:34 AM   #23
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^Not sure what you meant to do with all the tags. In any case, the Romulans are exceptionally paranoid. Senator or not, it's hard to believe someone would be allowed to simply walk anywhere without being watched while in Ki Baratan.

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Old June 22 2013, 04:52 AM   #24
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^Not sure what you meant to do with all the tags. In any case, the Romulans are exceptionally paranoid. Senator or not, it's hard to believe someone would be allowed to simply walk anywhere without being watched while in Ki Baratan.
In principle, perhaps. But if it's accepted that Romulan Senators have to be able to bring some things into the Senate chambers --- and unless Senate business on the floor is conducted entirely by memorization they have to be able to bring in some things --- then it becomes a matter of arranging to sneak something dangerous in. This may be a complicated problem, but the evidence on screen is that Shinzon and his groupies could solve that. That we didn't see how they arranged their confederate to murder the Romulan Senate reflects that Nemesis wasn't a heist movie --- where the point is to see how a system gets subverted --- but rather, well, a bunch of things blowing up while nobody cared.
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Old June 22 2013, 05:24 AM   #25
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Not listed here: Vidiians.
IMO it's the scariest that Star Trek ever got.
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Old June 22 2013, 06:10 AM   #26
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How do you choose between an individual villain, and a villain species?

If I had to choose an individual, I think Gul Dukat takes it as the ultimate evil villain. Khan was bad, but Gul Dukat's death toll eclipses Khan's, when you include his years occupying Bajor, and the Dominion War.

If I had to choose a species, then the Borg.
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Old June 22 2013, 06:14 AM   #27
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Sorry about the tags.

The device that killed the members of the senate was (apparently) encased in something that didn't look out of place when Senator Tal'aura casually put it down on the table top. Outwardly an every day object?

Certainly it didn't simply scream "hey, I'm a weapon."

How was it brought into the senate building? Smuggled in, shielded, the guards at some level were in on it, or just paid off. After that, Tal'aura just walked it in, it's possible that in Romulan society high level senators are above being questioned.

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Old June 22 2013, 04:01 PM   #28
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Re: Who is the scariest Star Trek villian?

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How would someone smuggle a mini-weapon of mass destruction into the Romulan Senate to kill dozens of loyal citizens? A people as paranoid as the Romulans would have searched her up, down, and sideways before letting her through the door.
She could have disguised it as any number of popular, harmless trinkets any Romulan might carry (kind of like how those two Klingons in TNG's "Heart of Glory" assembled a fully functional disruptor from items hidden on their uniforms). She's a Romulan Senator, so she has access to top secret ways to sneak things.
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Old June 22 2013, 04:21 PM   #29
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Shinzon of Remus

He's so relentlessly evil and so young.
Shinzon would have been scary if he wasn't incompetent and if his motives made sense.
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Old June 22 2013, 06:08 PM   #30
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Sorry about the tags.
Certainly it didn't simply scream "hey, I'm a weapon."
Course, I remember in the theater watching it and hearing my inner Tom Servo call out, ``Carol! You forgot your bomb! ... Oh.''
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