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Old July 26 2013, 02:11 AM   #136
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Plenty of mis-steps in it (zombie apocalypse and two guys are going for a rape in the dairy aisle?!) but overall I enjoyed it.
I have no doubt shit like that would happen if humanity imploded.
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Old July 26 2013, 02:14 AM   #137
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Probably. But probably no so quickly in such a crowded place with so many people around. And is it me, or did the guy behind the pharmacy counter not exactly seem like a pharmacist?
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Old July 26 2013, 02:15 AM   #138
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I like to think of the movie as the part we didn't get to see in the most recent version of I Am Legend.
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Old July 26 2013, 02:22 AM   #139
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And somewhere outside Atlanta, GA a sheriff's deputy lays in a coma from a gunshot wound to the torso.
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Old July 26 2013, 02:39 AM   #140
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I agree everything after Jerusalem things slid down hill... a bit, but hardly felt it was horrible. There were still some good moments there, particularly with the Jewish chick, the zombie version of William Fichtner and Pitt enjoying a cool, refreshing, Pepsi after getting his "camouflage" from the zombies. Overall, it's a movie I liked. (Saw it again this past weekend with another friend who wanted to see it.)

Plenty of mis-steps in it (zombie apocalypse and two guys are going for a rape in the dairy aisle?!) but overall I enjoyed it.
No, it wasn't horrible, it was stupid. It had probably already been said here, but the whole idea of infecting people with deadly but curable diseases for camouflage purposes is really really dumb. It's a terrible idea. What if one of those diseases gets out of hand and the world has a goddamn black plague or something in addition to zombie apocalypse?
It was also implied that zombies didn't bite one of the soldiers in South Korea because he was limping. The Israeli soldier girl had her arm cut off - why were the zombies reacting to her then, do zombies only bite the healthy people who can move easily? Why not send her to get the stuff at WHO, or at least to try to see what would happen if she got close to one of the zombies?

BTW, Segen in Hebrew is lieutenant, as in army rank, it made little sense not to give an Israeli girl a proper name even after the Jerusalem scene, but that's a minor nitpicking. It just looked weird to me.
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Old July 26 2013, 02:47 AM   #141
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Plenty of mis-steps in it (zombie apocalypse and two guys are going for a rape in the dairy aisle?!) but overall I enjoyed it.
I have no doubt shit like that would happen if humanity imploded.
That's exactly what happened in the Coliseum in New Orleans during the aftermath of Hurricaine Katrina, isn't it?
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Old July 26 2013, 02:48 AM   #142
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I agree everything after Jerusalem things slid down hill... a bit, but hardly felt it was horrible. There were still some good moments there, particularly with the Jewish chick, the zombie version of William Fichtner and Pitt enjoying a cool, refreshing, Pepsi after getting his "camouflage" from the zombies. Overall, it's a movie I liked. (Saw it again this past weekend with another friend who wanted to see it.)

Plenty of mis-steps in it (zombie apocalypse and two guys are going for a rape in the dairy aisle?!) but overall I enjoyed it.
No, it wasn't horrible, it was stupid. It had probably already been said here, but the whole idea of infecting people with deadly but curable diseases for camouflage purposes is really really dumb. It's a terrible idea. What if one of those diseases gets out of hand and the world has a goddamn black plague or something in addition to zombie apocalypse?
It was also implied that zombies didn't bite one of the soldiers in South Korea because he was limping. The Israeli soldier girl had her arm cut off - why were the zombies reacting to her then, do zombies only bite the healthy people who can move easily? Why not send her to get the stuff at WHO, or at least to try to see what would happen if she got close to one of the zombies?

BTW, Segen in Hebrew is lieutenant, as in army rank, it made little sense not to give an Israeli girl a proper name even after the Jerusalem scene, but that's a minor nitpicking. It just looked weird to me.
Well, we're never told what the guy in South Korea had that made him immune. It's possible he suffered from some illness that had rendered him inviable to the zombies, I doubt his limp had anything to do with it. Which is why the Israeli soldier chick was still attacked after losing her hand.

The "idea" seemed to be the zombies were "propagating their species" by only infecting viable candidates. The SK soldier, the old man in Israel and the bald (cancer?) kid in Israel all had terminal, long-term, illnesses that made them inviable candidates for infection.

As much as I liked this little plot idea I do agree it doesn't hold up to much scrutiny. Because it begs the question of "how sick is sick?" I think at the WHO they suggested something bacterial to be infected with. Well, any number of bacterial agents are infectious and potentially deadly. It's just a matter of "how deadly" and that depends on your personal health and immune system and how soon you get treatment.

The flu and the cold can be deadly in the right circumstances. (Though those are viruses.) So it was a plot point that wasn't thought out too much because it has too many problems when thought about for more than a couple of minutes.

But it certainly wasn't about injury as both the Israeli chick and Brad Pitt had pretty heavy injuries in the final act that should have made the "immune" and it obviously didn't. Maybe the guy in SK had arthritis or got polio or something?
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Old July 26 2013, 03:34 PM   #143
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^ He was terminally low on faith of the heart.
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Old July 26 2013, 05:30 PM   #144
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I agree everything after Jerusalem things slid down hill... a bit, but hardly felt it was horrible.
I believe the parts after Jerusalem were all part of the last minute rewrite and reshoot of the movie. Originally that plane was supposed to take Brad Pitt to Russia (which makes sense since I believe it was an Aeroflot plane) where he would spend the rest of the movie.

The whole "camoflauge" idea was a quick fix to try and salvage a movie that I guess test audiences didn't like. So I have to wonder what was so bad with the original movie that they thought the wonder disease idea would be the better option.
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Old July 26 2013, 07:23 PM   #145
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The original ending is discussed here:
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplayli...ostHeaderPanel
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Old July 27 2013, 02:55 AM   #146
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Interesting! I would have preferred the Russian ending. At least it would have been closer to the book. And it wouldn't have had such a premature "solution" to the war.
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Old July 27 2013, 05:23 AM   #147
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Eh, a sequel can always handwave away the camouflage if they want to - "the zombies adapted; time for a new strategy."

Yes, the revised ending was absurd and a out of nowhere, but in terms of pacing and tone, its slower, more suspenseful style was a necessary change of pace - after nearly an hour and a half of nonstop rollercoaster violence, to finish up with simply more of the same would have left audiences exhuasted and emotionally unsatisfied.

The fact that the movie didn't come together in the rough cut shows that the screenplay was rough and more than a little stupid from the start. Lindelof's emergency amputation cut out any kind of internal logic, but nevertheless saved the movie.
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Old July 27 2013, 05:26 AM   #148
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So I take it from the comments that the stuff about the zombies not attacking sick people did not come from the book?
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Old July 27 2013, 05:41 AM   #149
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Nope. Totally made up.

I really hope they have the original third act on the DVD!!! If they shot the whole thing surely a rough cut exists of it!
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Old July 27 2013, 11:30 AM   #150
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The original ending does make much more sense than Lindeloff's ending, but to have another zombie carnage/battle scene after Israel would indeed be just too much.

It looks like the whole script was a mess at any part of the filming, with both endings. The original script might've worked if the Israel part would've been scaled down significantly or even made the part where Brad Pitt discovers stuff about zombies, without major battle scenes. The new ending fits better what comes before it, but it doesn't make sense, so instead of enjoying the tense and pretty well filmed scenes, I was just thinking "Whaaaaat?" through the entire WHO part.
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