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Old June 19 2013, 04:15 AM   #1
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Study Says Men Are Cause Of Menopause

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2013/...-of-menopause/

New Study Says Men Are Cause Of Menopause
June 14, 2013

“The ovaries basically shut down,” explains West Penn Hospital OBGYN Dr. Emily Lebovitz. “Why exactly that occurs we don’t know.”

Around age 50, women end their reproductive years — an event called menopause. Hormones change, menstrual cycles stop, and natural childbearing is no longer a possibility.

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But a Canadian researcher says it’s because of men, and because of competition.

Using computer modeling, he found competition among men of any age for younger mates left older females with less chance of reproducing.

He says the result is that genes favoring menopause got passed down through the generations, so that now it’s a normal part of the female genetic blueprint.
I disagree with the study. It does not make sense to me. I'm pretty sure evolution does not work like that.

If men were favoring yonger women, I doubt it would effect menopause spreading. We would have to pick women with those gene over ones that don't, which there is no way for us to determine.

I think women get menopause for the same reason people get gray hair. People get older and our bodies change.
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Old June 19 2013, 04:30 AM   #2
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Uggh, men. Amarite, ladies?
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Old June 19 2013, 05:31 AM   #3
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Re: Study Says Men Are Cause Of Menopause

When I read an article about that (not sure if it is the one linked) they said that humans are the only animals that have menopause. Is this true? Do other female animals keep breeding up until death?
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Old June 19 2013, 08:06 AM   #4
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When I read an article about that (not sure if it is the one linked) they said that humans are the only animals that have menopause. Is this true? Do other female animals keep breeding up until death?
There are other female mammals which undergo an end of fertility, such as non-human primates, rodents, whales, dogs, rabbits, elephants, and domestic livestock, but that occurs much closer to the end of their average lifespan than it does in humans.

The only animals that we know of with a long term menopause (as in around half the average lifespan or more) are humans, pilot whales, and killer whales, the latter of which undergo menopause in their 30s or 40s yet can live well into their 90s.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/no...ugh-menopause/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9572138
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Old June 19 2013, 08:11 AM   #5
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So the article is wrong

Thanks for that, guess it makes some sense. Animals need to keep breeding because other animals need to keep eating them. You can't have animals running around doing all the eating and not making more animals for the food chain. So what do the pilot whales do with their mauve years?
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Old June 19 2013, 08:17 AM   #6
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So what do the pilot whales do with their mauve years?
Finally finish flight school and live up to their name.
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Old June 19 2013, 08:25 AM   #7
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Natural law probably expects Human females to be dead from illness, accident or eaten-by-predators after about the age of 50.

On behalf of Humanity, I say "Screw the natural law".
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Old June 19 2013, 09:44 AM   #8
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Indeed. People used to be old in their 50s and 60s-- it's the higher standard of living and medical science that gives us our current life expectancy. No idea how pilot whales do it. In any case, males and females of any species look for the most attractive mates, which generally means the youngest. Males competing for young females wouldn't select against menopause, but it wouldn't select for it.
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Old June 19 2013, 10:12 AM   #9
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The only animals that we know of with a long term menopause (as in around half the average lifespan or more) are humans, pilot whales, and killer whales, the latter of which undergo menopause in their 30s or 40s yet can live well into their 90s.
It's that damn whale medicare, I tell ya!
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Old June 20 2013, 02:29 PM   #10
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Uggh, men. Amarite, ladies?



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So what do the pilot whales do with their mauve years?
Finally finish flight school and live up to their name.
sounds like my retirement plans!
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Old June 20 2013, 05:02 PM   #11
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So what do the pilot whales do with their mauve years?
Finally finish flight school and live up to their name.
sounds like my retirement plans!
Cool. Yeah, I think getting a pilot's license is one of the things I'd most like to do when I hit retirement age as well, though who knows what the average retirement age will be 25+ years from now?
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Old June 20 2013, 10:14 PM   #12
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The next study will illustrate that women cause shorter lifespans for men. Constant nagging will be discovered to be the reason for this.
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Old June 20 2013, 10:53 PM   #13
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You mean like all that nagging to go to the doctor, lost weight and stop eating all that crap?
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Old June 20 2013, 11:04 PM   #14
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^No that just causes grey hair and/or hair loss.

It's all down to our genes and tens of thousands of years of evolution. Who knows in maybe another 10 000 years the menopuase might come 5-10 years later than it does now.
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Old June 22 2013, 09:20 PM   #15
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Fabulous. Something else I can blame on my husband.
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