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Old March 26 2014, 01:10 AM   #1231
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All I can say, he should've put the glass pipe down a few hours earlier

Even, if, he is correct that Morris has episodes he's holding onto (Which I would hope would be because of getting them ready, or following up leads to "complete the set" or still sorting...) those Tweets are still way beyond rational behavior and, IMHO, point towards needing an intervention or Psychiatric help.

I would love to see more returned, and the naive side of my brain believes there is a cache, if we just wait long enough...., but, honestly, Levine's showing far too much investment in this whole thing to be healthy. Who really has such a stress free life at his age, that they can spend that kind of investment in this whole situation?
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Old March 26 2014, 01:22 AM   #1232
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We don't know enough about the facts to make any wild claims. If Morris hasn't found anything he's within his right not to shoot down every single rumour that's thrown at him. If he has found something then it's likely the BBC preventing anything from coming out; the iTunes release worked so well that the BBC probably want a few stories ready for immediate release before an announcement is made.

Anything said before an announcement is speculation. I'm not holding my breath. we've been down these roads before.
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Old March 26 2014, 06:53 AM   #1233
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I'm okay with having to wait longer if it gives us an Ian Levine meltdown.
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Old March 26 2014, 01:58 PM   #1234
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As time goes by, I'm leaning more and more towards there being nothing else. I suppose it could be taking time to restore. However, I doubt Morris went to all the trouble to find these just to keep them to himself.

What I do wish though is that there was more transparency. I wish that he'd simply state what he has or has not found. Yes, I know he is not required to do that, but I think it would be nice. Not for Ian's sake, but just for all the fans out there who are interested.

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Old March 26 2014, 03:49 PM   #1235
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What I do wish though is that there was more transparency.
At this point, everything's a waste of breath, because... TBH we'd never even know if they were being totally transparent, because people - well, Levine especially - will always disbelieve.

Basically it doesn't matter now what anybody says, the other side is always going to vocally disagree and accuse... You might as well just pick a couple if pages of forum discussion about the subject and set it to automatically repost the same posts every three months, cos that's what's going to happen for the rest of time. Or at least until everyone involved has gotten old and died off.

The whole thing's a waste of bandwidth.
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Old March 26 2014, 03:53 PM   #1236
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^ I hear you. However, we'd each decide for ourselves whether to believe or not. If Morris came out and said, I don't have any more DW episodes, I'd probably believe him. It may not silence everyone, but I think many of us would take him at his word.

In fact, I think the lack of a clear statement (at least as far as I know, but could be wrong) is helping to keep this going.

Again, some will always disbelieve but us normal fans could at least feel that we've gotten the truth.

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Old March 26 2014, 10:27 PM   #1237
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Think about it from his perspective. He's traveling a lot. He doesn't visit the forums (except for the early days when Ian pointed him in the right direction and subsequently down the path that led us to the 9 episodes last year) so he doesn't know how badly fans are bleating on about this.

If he answered with no I don't have any and then the next town he visited had three completely missing stories it would be extremely hard, especially with someone like Levine on his case, to back track and say he found them after his last statement. Belief in any statement he makes from then on is pointless and only fodder for more of Levine's ramblings.

I personally think he's doing the right thing; ignoring what fandom is thinking and getting on with what he does.
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Old March 26 2014, 11:04 PM   #1238
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but, honestly, Levine's showing far too much investment in this whole thing to be healthy.
He has more interests outside Dr Who than I do. I dare say he spends less time in front of a computer, and has spent more time doing a career that truely loved doing.

This isn't just that he's been kept waiting, it's that he's been left completely out the loop.

The fact that Phil has other BBC recoveries and hasn't confirmed or returned most of those does support a larger recovery.

Personally, I've waited this long, I can wait a bit longer. I'm 99% sure he has found more. But I will be disappointed at the end of the day if William Russell and Warris Hussien never get to see Marco Polo. They are both desperate to do so.
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Old March 26 2014, 11:36 PM   #1239
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It's interesting that Steve Roberts came out and said he believes Marco has been found, despite not having any evidence and just thinks it's a gut instinct. Normally the RT team stay quiet about such things.
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Old March 26 2014, 11:41 PM   #1240
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I personally think he's doing the right thing; ignoring what fandom is thinking and getting on with what he does.
That's pretty much the only way to survive in the entertainment industry.
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Old March 27 2014, 03:36 AM   #1241
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Think about it from his perspective. He's traveling a lot. He doesn't visit the forums (except for the early days when Ian pointed him in the right direction and subsequently down the path that led us to the 9 episodes last year) so he doesn't know how badly fans are bleating on about this.
He does go online and post about it sometimes - a few weeks back he mentioned on Facebook that he was pretty hopeful that he'd be able to recover a second print of the Morecambe and Wise episode that was found, but was too far gone to be salvaged - so I'd suspect he's aware of how frenzied the Doctor Who-related speculation is, which is probably why he doesn't say anything about Who-related leads (but sometimes does about other things).
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Old March 27 2014, 01:45 PM   #1242
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^ It would be nice if he just said what he has or didn't have for DW. If he has nothing else for DW, just say it!
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Old March 27 2014, 04:40 PM   #1243
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Just when you think Ian Levine can't get any more eccentric...
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Old March 27 2014, 05:37 PM   #1244
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"Eccentric"? Is that what we're calling him now?
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Old March 27 2014, 06:01 PM   #1245
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Ian Levine wrote:
He is the total antithesis of me and everything I stand for and everything I hold dear. He is my own personal nemesis, the "Anti-Levine" if you like.
I don't know this Philip Morris guy but that statement from Levine makes me think he must be a calm and friendly guy, who is also ... uhm, not nuts.

What is Ian Levine thinking, that this guy sits on a throne built out of film cans, cackling all day and waiting for Levine to croak so that he can finally make his move to grab money, fame and power?

Maybe he really has found something (but hardly everything), there are reasons not to announce things before they are ready but I guarantee, making Ian Levine's blood boil is not one of them, he's not that important except in his own mind.
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