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Old October 10 2013, 03:02 PM   #811
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Wow, watching people on other sites starting to foam at the mouth at the thought of having to wait a few more hours for the details rather than being given them RIGHT! THIS! SECOND! reminds me once again that Doctor Who fans don't need anyone else to make them look bad as they'll manage quite well on their own.
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Old October 10 2013, 03:09 PM   #812
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^ Well, there's no need for people to foam a the mouth but I can also understand them feeling jerked around by the BBC who appear to have been not completely straightforward with fans. Now, they may have had good reasons for being slow with releasing information, but that also seems to be their MO.

At any rate, it is pretty exciting just knowing that soon we'll hear which new episodes have been found! That's the main thing!

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Old October 10 2013, 03:10 PM   #813
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At any rate, it is pretty exciting just knowing that soon we'll hear which new episodes have been found! That's the main thing!
Mr. Awe, exactly so!
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Old October 10 2013, 03:14 PM   #814
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Well, there's no need for people to foam a the mouth but I can also understand them feeling jerked around by the BBC who appear to have been not completely straightforward with fans.
And if the information was being held back for a week as opposed to a couple of hours maybe then there might be a reason to get annoyed.

The number of people I've seen this week who seem to think the BBC should have carried out all its actions in full public view has astonished me. (I find it hard to believe that I'm the only DW fan out there with a job that brings them into contact with confidential negotiations and the like.)
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Old October 10 2013, 03:17 PM   #815
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^ Well, there's no need for people to foam a the mouth but I can also understand them feeling jerked around by the BBC who appear to have been not completely straightforward with fans. Now, they may have had good reasons for being slow with releasing information, but that also seems to be their MO.
What I don't understand is why people feel they are owed the information on their time scale, rather than when BBC wants to give the info (presumably not until everything is sewn up, and they can schedule release). Truth be told, The BBC has no requirement to recover lost episodes, or to even care about them. Why are the BBC seen as being scum for wanting to do it on their own timing?

At any rate, it is pretty exciting just knowing that soon we'll hear which new episodes have been found! That's the main thing!

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Oh yea, I can't wait until it's officially announced and we have actual facts
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Old October 10 2013, 03:21 PM   #816
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Just the nine episodes from Web and Enemy previously mentioned apparently.

(See, Embargos never work anyway.)
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Old October 10 2013, 03:27 PM   #817
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And if the information was being held back for a week as opposed to a couple of hours maybe then there might be a reason to get annoyed.
Well, there's no telling right now how long the BBC has sat on this information. And, as I said, they may have had good reasons. Unfortunately, it fits in with a common view that fans have of the BBC, that they don't care about the fans. So, justified or not, it's going to sting. Especially with the excitement surrounding this announcement.

And, they've already had screenings of them, so certainly they could've just announced them rather than excessively teasing the fans.

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What I don't understand is why people feel they are owed the information on their time scale, rather than when BBC wants to give the info (presumably not until everything is sewn up, and they can schedule release). Truth be told, The BBC has no requirement to recover lost episodes, or to even care about them. Why are the BBC seen as being scum for wanting to do it on their own timing?
Agree that fans aren't owed anything. However, it just seems like it would be nice to factor the fans into the BBC's plans when possible. After all, fans are people who really love the BBC's products, try to be considerate!

But, I do agree that the BBC might have had good reasons but unfortunately plays into a stereotype that many fans have of the BBC.

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Old October 10 2013, 03:29 PM   #818
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What level of censoring was done on the Hartnell serials? Is it level of violence, romantic suggestion or certain dialogue, and to what extent?
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Old October 10 2013, 03:31 PM   #819
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And, they've already had screenings of them, so certainly they could've just announced them rather than excessively teasing the fans.
But that's a bizarre way of filtering the actions. Stories like this are held back until after midnight so they can get a full day of press coverage, print and TV, out of them, not just the couple of hours of TV coverage it would get if it was released now. It's not just some random decision designed to annoy people.
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Old October 10 2013, 03:38 PM   #820
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Well that didn't take long.

People are all ready complaining that having one more fully complete story and one with only missing one episode isn't good enough or worthy of all the hype. (And ignoring that the BBC didn't hype anything.)
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Old October 10 2013, 03:46 PM   #821
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And, they've already had screenings of them, so certainly they could've just announced them rather than excessively teasing the fans.
But that's a bizarre way of filtering the actions. Stories like this are held back until after midnight so they can get a full day of press coverage, print and TV, out of them, not just the couple of hours of TV coverage it would get if it was released now. It's not just some random decision designed to annoy people.
I'm just saying that I understand why some fans would be annoyed.

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Old October 10 2013, 03:48 PM   #822
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Web of Fear (6) plus Enemy of the World (6) minus Web part 3 should give us 11 episodes. So, does that mean 2 episodes are missing from Enemy?
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Old October 10 2013, 03:49 PM   #823
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We already had an episode each of Web & Enemy
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Old October 10 2013, 03:50 PM   #824
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^ d'oh!

Well I'm super hyped over these finds! Fantastic!
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Old October 10 2013, 03:59 PM   #825
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Wow, watching people on other sites starting to foam at the mouth at the thought of having to wait a few more hours for the details rather than being given them RIGHT! THIS! SECOND! reminds me once again that Doctor Who fans don't need anyone else to make them look bad as they'll manage quite well on their own.
There are people like that in all fandoms not just Who. Fandoms in general are hardly known for calm reasonableness.

With Who you do have the added complication of British fans expecting more from the BBC as they pay for it and non British fans not really understanding why the BBC doesn't act like your run of the mill commercial organisation.
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